On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > > Hi Joe, > > > > Great. I've created a URL redirect list which I'll attach to INFRA-3933 > as we discussed. > > I also updated - > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/DNS,+Virtual+Hosts+and+Redirects > Dave-- GREAT WORK! Thanks for going to all this trouble--really! :) > > > > > I made the list in the following format - the first three are special > and following is the pattern for the rest of the well over 100 subdomains. > > > > FR Forum will be happy about the first. Rob should note both > contributing and security will begin to go to the podling site. > > > > qa.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent /issues/(.*) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/$1 > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/qa/$1 > > > > contributing.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) > incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html > > > > security.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) > incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/security/ > > > > aa.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/aa/$1 > > > > about.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/about/$1 > > > > af.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/af/$1 > > > > am.openoffice.org > > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/am/$1 > > > > .... > > > > Other redirects anyone? > > > > With this information you should have everything ready to do the > switchover when the word is given. > > > > It would make people happy to have the first qa.oo.o redirect and those > for contributing.oo.o and security.oo.o immediately. > > > > Regards, > > Dave > > > > > > On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > >> All set. Just did a full site build and it went thru no trouble. > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Joe Schaefer <[email protected]> > >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>> Cc: > >>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:45 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites > >>> > >>> I'm working with Gav to get the timeout upped as that's what's > >>> causing the builds to fail (long delays when the built site gets > >>> checked back in). I will let you know once I have things ready > >>> for you to make mass changes to the ooo-site. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Dave Fisher <[email protected]> > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Cc: > >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:32 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Why don't you just decide to make the current ooo-site live, > >>>>> and tell infra to change dns for www.openoffice.org to point > >>>>> at it? > >>>> > >>>> There is an outstanding question about exactly how the extensions and > >>> templates > >>>> authenticate users. It is being investigated. > >>>> > >>>> Also the subdomain map needs to be built. > >>>> > >>>>> I've made some performance enhancements to the CMS today so > >>>>> web checkouts will only take a few seconds as opposed to 30min. > >>>> > >>>> That's wonderful! > >>>> > >>>>> Also I will be working on your site's build because it is in a > >>>>> terrible state, but that will take more time. > >>>> > >>>> Too much was committed at once. > >>>> > >>>> So, we don't collide let me know if you are working with templates or > >>> lib, I > >>>> am (or was) about to play with that part. I am really effin, tired of > being > >>> > >>>> yelled at at repeatedly by Rob. > >>>> > >>>> When I'm done with my plan nearly every html file in ooo-site will be > >>>> updated, how do you want to co-ordinate that? > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: Rob Weir <[email protected]> > >>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>> Cc: > >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:55 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Dave Fisher > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I've already answered. I've been very clear. > >>>> Nothing has > >>>>>> stopped others from working on ooo-site. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I apologize if I was not clear. I'm not interested in > >>> > >>>> editing > >>>>>>>> ooo-site.apache.org. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And I happen to think that this is absolute nonsense. ooo-site > >>> will > >>>> be > >>>>>> www.openoffice.org when the time comes. Waiting is a bogus excuse. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To the extent that you continue to not understand what I am saying > >>> I > >>>>>> will continue to repeat myself, attempting various ways of > >>>>>> reformulating my point. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I want to update www.openoffice.org. I do not want to update only > >>>>>> your test server. I want the changes I make now to be reflected > >>> on > >>>>>> the public, user facing openoffice.org website after a simple > >>> staging > >>>>>> and publication stage, i.e., near real time, no more than a few > >>>>>> minutes delay. That is what the project needs. This is what we > >>> all > >>>>>> need. The fact that we can can easily update ooo-site, a staging > >>>>>> website that no user actually ever sees is a partial success only. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What I hear you saying is that we're free to update the data > >>> in > >>>>>> /ooo-site and that will then appear on the test staging server. > >>> That > >>>>>> is nice. But the changes that you, me and others have made on > >>> that > >>>>>> content is not being seen by real users. It is stuck in limbo. > >>> We > >>>>>> can invite committers to stick more content into limbo, of course, > >>> to > >>>>>> queue it up for publication at some indeterminate point in the > >>> future. > >>>>>> But I'm more interested in what we need to do to get the > >>> content > >>>> out > >>>>>> of limbo and live on www.openoffice.org. How do we complete this? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So this is not about ooo-site. This is about the complete > >>> publication > >>>>>> pipeline. That is what matters for the PPMC's ability to > >>> properly > >>>>>> manage the www.openoffice.org website. Nothing is live until the > >>> PPMC > >>>>>> can effectively update the real site. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Remember, what our users have on www.openoffice.org is very wrong > >>> in > >>>>>> many places. We're continuing every day to harm the project > >>> if > >>>> that > >>>>>> content remains as-is and is not replaced by accurate project > >>>>>> information. The fact that some of the content is corrected in > >>> SVN > >>>>>> or on ooo-site is not enough. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If at all possible, I'd urge us to take a "release early, > >>> > >>>> release > >>>>>> often" approach to the website migration rather than a > >>> "big > >>>> bang > >>>>>> integration" approach. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What is the minimum that really needs to be done to make this site > >>> go > >>>>>> live? And how can I, and anyone else who is interested in > >>>>>> accelerating this work, help? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Rob > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mohandas Gandhi
