On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > OK, one last thought--will the redirect of www.openoffice.org to > ooo-site.apache.org affect the svn.openoffice.org areas? > > I recently pulled the "accepted" projects while doing the massvie updates a > week or so ago, but have NOT updated my copy of the "incubator" projects > in some time. So...do we need to do this one last snapshot before > proceeding? I would think svn.openoffice.org should NOT be affected, but I > just wanted to check.
As long as *.openoffice.org catch all rules is left and the 137 specific domains are added then all the catch-alls will still go to Kenai. > > From my perspective, the sooner we can put ooo-site.apache.org into > production, the better! Yes, it needs some tooling, but let's go for ti! Sure. > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>> >>>>> Great. I've created a URL redirect list which I'll attach to INFRA-3933 >>>> as we discussed. >>>> >>>> I also updated - >>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/DNS,+Virtual+Hosts+and+Redirects >>>> >>> >>> Dave-- >>> >>> GREAT WORK! Thanks for going to all this trouble--really! :) >> >> Your great work made this easy! >> >> WIth all of the subdomains in place in the svn it was all about making >> directory names into domain names and grinding through. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I made the list in the following format - the first three are special >>>> and following is the pattern for the rest of the well over 100 >> subdomains. >>>>> >>>>> FR Forum will be happy about the first. Rob should note both >>>> contributing and security will begin to go to the podling site. >>>>> >>>>> qa.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent /issues/(.*) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/$1 >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/qa/$1 >>>>> >>>>> contributing.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) >>>> incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html >>>>> >>>>> security.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) >>>> incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/security/ >>>>> >>>>> aa.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/aa/$1 >>>>> >>>>> about.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/about/$1 >>>>> >>>>> af.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/af/$1 >>>>> >>>>> am.openoffice.org >>>>> redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/am/$1 >>>>> >>>>> .... >>>>> >>>>> Other redirects anyone? >>>>> >>>>> With this information you should have everything ready to do the >>>> switchover when the word is given. >>>>> >>>>> It would make people happy to have the first qa.oo.o redirect and those >>>> for contributing.oo.o and security.oo.o immediately. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> All set. Just did a full site build and it went thru no trouble. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:45 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm working with Gav to get the timeout upped as that's what's >>>>>>> causing the builds to fail (long delays when the built site gets >>>>>>> checked back in). I will let you know once I have things ready >>>>>>> for you to make mass changes to the ooo-site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Dave Fisher <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:32 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why don't you just decide to make the current ooo-site live, >>>>>>>>> and tell infra to change dns for www.openoffice.org to point >>>>>>>>> at it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is an outstanding question about exactly how the extensions >> and >>>>>>> templates >>>>>>>> authenticate users. It is being investigated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also the subdomain map needs to be built. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've made some performance enhancements to the CMS today so >>>>>>>>> web checkouts will only take a few seconds as opposed to 30min. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's wonderful! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also I will be working on your site's build because it is in a >>>>>>>>> terrible state, but that will take more time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Too much was committed at once. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, we don't collide let me know if you are working with templates >> or >>>>>>> lib, I >>>>>>>> am (or was) about to play with that part. I am really effin, tired >> of >>>> being >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yelled at at repeatedly by Rob. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I'm done with my plan nearly every html file in ooo-site will >> be >>>>>>>> updated, how do you want to co-ordinate that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Rob Weir <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:55 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Dave Fisher >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've already answered. I've been very clear. >>>>>>>> Nothing has >>>>>>>>>> stopped others from working on ooo-site. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize if I was not clear. I'm not interested in >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> editing >>>>>>>>>>>> ooo-site.apache.org. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And I happen to think that this is absolute nonsense. ooo-site >>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org when the time comes. Waiting is a bogus >> excuse. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To the extent that you continue to not understand what I am saying >>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> will continue to repeat myself, attempting various ways of >>>>>>>>>> reformulating my point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to update www.openoffice.org. I do not want to update >> only >>>>>>>>>> your test server. I want the changes I make now to be reflected >>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> the public, user facing openoffice.org website after a simple >>>>>>> staging >>>>>>>>>> and publication stage, i.e., near real time, no more than a few >>>>>>>>>> minutes delay. That is what the project needs. This is what we >>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> need. The fact that we can can easily update ooo-site, a staging >>>>>>>>>> website that no user actually ever sees is a partial success only. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I hear you saying is that we're free to update the data >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> /ooo-site and that will then appear on the test staging server. >>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>> is nice. But the changes that you, me and others have made on >>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> content is not being seen by real users. It is stuck in limbo. >>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>>> can invite committers to stick more content into limbo, of course, >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> queue it up for publication at some indeterminate point in the >>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>> But I'm more interested in what we need to do to get the >>>>>>> content >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> of limbo and live on www.openoffice.org. How do we complete >> this? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So this is not about ooo-site. This is about the complete >>>>>>> publication >>>>>>>>>> pipeline. That is what matters for the PPMC's ability to >>>>>>> properly >>>>>>>>>> manage the www.openoffice.org website. Nothing is live until the >>>>>>> PPMC >>>>>>>>>> can effectively update the real site. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Remember, what our users have on www.openoffice.org is very wrong >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> many places. We're continuing every day to harm the project >>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> content remains as-is and is not replaced by accurate project >>>>>>>>>> information. The fact that some of the content is corrected in >>>>>>> SVN >>>>>>>>>> or on ooo-site is not enough. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If at all possible, I'd urge us to take a "release early, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>> often" approach to the website migration rather than a >>>>>>> "big >>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>> integration" approach. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is the minimum that really needs to be done to make this site >>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>> live? And how can I, and anyone else who is interested in >>>>>>>>>> accelerating this work, help? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> MzK >>> >>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged >>> by the way its animals are treated." >>> -- Mohandas Gandhi >> >> > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged > by the way its animals are treated." > -- Mohandas Gandhi
