On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Rob, > > Sounds like we can appeal to contributors intrinsic and extrinsic > motivation. > > Another newbie question: Does OO have any experience recruiting > non-technical volunteers. Many disciplines outside coding can have an > impact on the offering. Product management, UX, ID, training, visual > design, marketing, communications, etc. How might we position ourselves as > open product development? A wider net would attract the diverse skills that > could really make the effort a success long term. > > See this page here, which our central "how can I help page": http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html So we need and value contributors in a wide range of disciplines, not just technical ones. -Rob Regards, > Kevin > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Pedro Giffuni <p...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi Ram; > >> > >> We are strictly non-profit here so I am not sure how far > >> we could go with such certifications. I think it's a > >> delicate matter and sooner or later someone would likely > >> complain about students being exploited or your company > >> making money in exchange of ASF certificates. > >> > >> > > But consider, don't we do exactly this when Apache participates in Google > > Summer of Code? We get students working on Apache projects, and in > return > > Apache gives the student a written evaluation. And in return for a > > successful evaluation the student gets money from Google. > > > > How is it any different if another company (not Google) encourages > students > > to contribute to the project and in return we provide some reference for > > how well the student did? How payments are handled beyond that is none > of > > our business. > > > > > > > >> We certainly can have a Wiki page for students to register > >> their projects and ideas and if their projects are really > >> good we would almost certainly invite them to become > >> Apache committers but that as far as we can go (I think). > >> > >> > > > > Being voted in as as committer is one way to demonstrate accomplishment > in > > the project. > > > > Another way would be to show code contributions directly. Everything in > > version control is open to the public to inspect, so anyone with the > right > > skills can find this out. > > > > Another way is to use a site like Ohloh, which puts these statistics in > a > > easier-to-read form. > > > > -Rob > > > > > >> cheers, > >> > >> Pedro. > >> > >> --- Mer 28/3/12, q...@imsoftwaresystems.com ha scritto: > >> > >>> Hi Rob, > >>> > >>> Well, the large talent pool is available here in India with > >>> millions of > >>> students graduating in Engineering,MCA(Master of computer > >>> applications). > >>> They all look for a project for their final semester. We can > >>> somehow try to > >>> attract them but they also try to see what is the > >>> benefit for them. Most > >>> of these guys they learn C/Java as part of their > >>> syllabus.But we need to > >>> retrain them as they generally just try to pass and > >>> not to be master of > >>> it. > >>> So we need to train them and make them useful. > >>> > >>> I have not seen the code base yet but based on the search > >>> results what i > >>> have understood is that it is implemented in > >>> > >>> Java, > >>> OOBasic, > >>> Cpp, > >>> Python, > >>> XSL, > >>> ooRexx > >>> > >>> From Freshers point of view they prefer the new languages > >>> like > >>> Java(ofcourse it is a old one but still new when compared to > >>> C/C++) or > >>> advanced stuff like Android. But still we can train people > >>> in C++ but it is > >>> easy to attract people for Java. > >>> > >>> If we know the exact requirement of people then we can try > >>> to gather the > >>> people and train them and make them good to contribute to > >>> the project. > >>> > >>> We have a software training institute and staff are from top > >>> MNC's.Lot of > >>> students approach us for Live Projects to gain some real > >>> experience. > >>> > >>> So we may try to accept the people and train them. We charge > >>> the students > >>> for training as we have to pay the trainers. > >>> Ultimately what students expect is an experience letter from > >>> Apache so that > >>> they can utilise it for future employment. In addition to > >>> issuing the > >>> certificate we should have their contribution mentioned in > >>> our website > >>> otherwise other job seekers will fake the cetificates. > >>> > >>> I think if the company(Apache) is ready to issue a > >>> certificate mentioning > >>> their contribution towards the project and list their > >>> contribution in AOO > >>> website then it should definetly work. > >>> > >>> Thanks & Regards, > >>> Ram, > >>> Im Software Systems > >>> > >> > >> >
