Hi, > Thanks. I've essentially followed your suggestions. I hope that others will > review the wiki at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Sept before it is > moved to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2012 on Wednesday.
The report has been moved to the incubator wiki. Please let us know if you think anything should be edited. Regards, Dave > > Regards, > Dave > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> Reviewing the June report I have this to offer for September: >> >> A. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT >> >> This says there were 13 new Committers/PPMC members and 2 committer/PPMC >> member resignations. I don't track resignations, and I think it is best to >> show the baseline (or resulting levels) of those changes. I am assuming >> that my June 5, 2012 Status was the basis for the numbers in the June 8 >> report to the IPMC and Board. >> >> Comparing that with the report from yesterday, I would say that >> >> "There are now 110 committers with 72 of those on the PPMC. Relative to the >> last report, that is an increase of 15 committers and a decrease of 3 >> committers on the PPMC (following an audit to reconcile subscribers to the >> ooo-private mailing list)." >> >> Now the numbers are grounded and the baseline here makes the derivation of >> details in a further report easy to substantiate. >> >> >> B. A DIFFERENT OVERSIGHT >> >> It is stunning that of all the matters that it might be thought the Board >> might need to be aware of (whether or not called to act on) the only one >> I've ever noticed is the June statement about leaks from the ooo-private >> list to "outside agencies". >> >> Along with that June issue, there is our promise to provide an update in the >> next report (this one in September 2012) or at least indicate that an update >> was provided separately. The current draft simply removes any evidence that >> this issue was raised. I suggest that there needs to be accountability and >> closure on our part. >> >> I paid little attention to that issue. I would suggest that the single leak >> was identified and the matter has been closed to the satisfaction of the >> PPMC. >> >> - Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 18:16 >> To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org >> Cc: OOo-dev Apache Incubator >> Subject: Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012 >> >> >> On Sep 3, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> >>> Dave, I don't know what the baseline was for the last report, so I have no >>> idea what the deltas are. Where is the previous report to the IPMC? >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2012 >> >> It was written June 8. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> >>> >>> - Dennis >>> >>> PS: I may have provided that previous data, but it was a while ago [;<). >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] >>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 16:12 >>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >>> Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Hamilton >>> Subject: Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012 >>> >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/01/2012 11:26 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We are not a TLP the board report is to the IPMC and needs to be ready >>>>>>> much, much sooner than two days before the board meeting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We need to have this ready by a date like September 12. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh my! You are SO right...here is the message from June... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/7td2rgws7gnkoxo5 >>>>>> >>>>>> so, this will need to be ready like Sept 6th! WOW! That is very soon. >>>>> >>>>> The report page is ready at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2012 >>>>> >>>>> Due on Wednesday Sept. 5. >>>>> >>>>> I copied the June report and made some changes to >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Sept >>>>> >>>>> There is more to be done. Please feel free to edit. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for getting this started, Dave. >>>> >>>> I made a few more changes...some facts need review and, of course, we >>>> could always use more input... >>> >>> I made a additional changes as well. I think that the report is overly long >>> and we can lose the detail at the bottom. >>> >>> Dennis - would you confirm the PPMC change statement. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dave >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The IPMC will review the report. We should be discussing our graduation >>>>>>> plans. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> absolutely! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The report will go here: >>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2012when that page is created. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With my IPMC hat, >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the rather critical correction! >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In June, we all worked together via e-mail on the Board report to >>>>>>> incubator, and I think most of us agreed that worked pretty well. But, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> thought we could find a better contribution mechanism rather than e-mail >>>>>>> and editing my one person. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have another quarterly report that will be due Sept 20. I've put a >>>>>>> new page (empty) on the Planning Wiki containing 2 child pages -- the >>>>>>> June >>>>>>> report and an empty Sept placeholder. Hopefully, we can use the June >>>>>>> report >>>>>>> as a template and collectively contribute to the Sept report before its >>>>>>> due >>>>>>> date of Sept 18 (two days before the Board meeting). Please contribute >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> you see fit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Board+Reports >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> MzK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, >>>>>>>> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, >>>>>>>> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, >>>>>>>> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, >>>>>>>> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a >>>>>>>> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. >>>>>>>> Specialization is for insects." >>>>>>>> -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> MzK >>>>>> >>>>>> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, >>>>>> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, >>>>>> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, >>>>>> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, >>>>>> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a >>>>>> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. >>>>>> Specialization is for insects." >>>>>> -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> MzK >>>> >>>> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, >>>> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, >>>> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, >>>> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, >>>> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a >>>> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. >>>> Specialization is for insects." >>>> -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" >>> >> >
