Hi Dennis, Thanks. I've essentially followed your suggestions. I hope that others will review the wiki at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Sept before it is moved to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2012 on Wednesday.
Regards, Dave On Sep 3, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Reviewing the June report I have this to offer for September: > > A. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT > > This says there were 13 new Committers/PPMC members and 2 committer/PPMC > member resignations. I don't track resignations, and I think it is best to > show the baseline (or resulting levels) of those changes. I am assuming that > my June 5, 2012 Status was the basis for the numbers in the June 8 report to > the IPMC and Board. > > Comparing that with the report from yesterday, I would say that > > "There are now 110 committers with 72 of those on the PPMC. Relative to the > last report, that is an increase of 15 committers and a decrease of 3 > committers on the PPMC (following an audit to reconcile subscribers to the > ooo-private mailing list)." > > Now the numbers are grounded and the baseline here makes the derivation of > details in a further report easy to substantiate. > > > B. A DIFFERENT OVERSIGHT > > It is stunning that of all the matters that it might be thought the Board > might need to be aware of (whether or not called to act on) the only one I've > ever noticed is the June statement about leaks from the ooo-private list to > "outside agencies". > > Along with that June issue, there is our promise to provide an update in the > next report (this one in September 2012) or at least indicate that an update > was provided separately. The current draft simply removes any evidence that > this issue was raised. I suggest that there needs to be accountability and > closure on our part. > > I paid little attention to that issue. I would suggest that the single leak > was identified and the matter has been closed to the satisfaction of the PPMC. > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 18:16 > To: [email protected] > Cc: OOo-dev Apache Incubator > Subject: Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012 > > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> Dave, I don't know what the baseline was for the last report, so I have no >> idea what the deltas are. Where is the previous report to the IPMC? > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2012 > > It was written June 8. > > Regards, > Dave > > >> >> - Dennis >> >> PS: I may have provided that previous data, but it was a while ago [;<). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 16:12 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] Hamilton >> Subject: Re: board report for Sept. 20, 2012 >> >> >> On Sep 2, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 09/01/2012 11:26 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We are not a TLP the board report is to the IPMC and needs to be ready >>>>>> much, much sooner than two days before the board meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to have this ready by a date like September 12. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oh my! You are SO right...here is the message from June... >>>>> >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/7td2rgws7gnkoxo5 >>>>> >>>>> so, this will need to be ready like Sept 6th! WOW! That is very soon. >>>> >>>> The report page is ready at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2012 >>>> >>>> Due on Wednesday Sept. 5. >>>> >>>> I copied the June report and made some changes to >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Sept >>>> >>>> There is more to be done. Please feel free to edit. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dave >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for getting this started, Dave. >>> >>> I made a few more changes...some facts need review and, of course, we could >>> always use more input... >> >> I made a additional changes as well. I think that the report is overly long >> and we can lose the detail at the bottom. >> >> Dennis - would you confirm the PPMC change statement. >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The IPMC will review the report. We should be discussing our graduation >>>>>> plans. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> absolutely! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The report will go here: >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2012when that page is created. >>>>>> >>>>>> With my IPMC hat, >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the rather critical correction! >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In June, we all worked together via e-mail on the Board report to >>>>>> incubator, and I think most of us agreed that worked pretty well. But, I >>>>>> thought we could find a better contribution mechanism rather than e-mail >>>>>> and editing my one person. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have another quarterly report that will be due Sept 20. I've put a >>>>>> new page (empty) on the Planning Wiki containing 2 child pages -- the >>>>>> June >>>>>> report and an empty Sept placeholder. Hopefully, we can use the June >>>>>> report >>>>>> as a template and collectively contribute to the Sept report before its >>>>>> due >>>>>> date of Sept 18 (two days before the Board meeting). Please contribute as >>>>>> you see fit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Board+Reports >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> MzK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, >>>>>>> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, >>>>>>> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, >>>>>>> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, >>>>>>> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a >>>>>>> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. >>>>>>> Specialization is for insects." >>>>>>> -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> MzK >>>>> >>>>> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, >>>>> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, >>>>> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, >>>>> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, >>>>> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a >>>>> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. >>>>> Specialization is for insects." >>>>> -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> MzK >>> >>> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, >>> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, >>> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, >>> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, >>> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a >>> tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. >>> Specialization is for insects." >>> -- Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love" >> >
