Sent from my tablet On Oct 14, 2012 9:18 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile > >> <arie...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 04:50:06PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > >>>> The fact that it never occurred to anyone participating in the definition > >>>> of the PMC membership is, in my opinion, a major failing of process which > >>>> was designed to identify people with sufficient merit. > >>> > >>> Now that you mentioned it, the process was more democratic, than > >>> meritocratic: it didn't only fail to identify people with sufficient > >>> merit, it also failed to measure merit (that's why I voted 0). > >>> > >> > >> Isn't this easy to solve? All we need is for one proposed PMC-member > >> to say that they will, as one of their first actions as a TLP PMC > >> member, propose the former mentors for PMC membership. > >> > >> Is anyone willing to state this? > > > > Yes. That has been my plan. I also would accept any additions to the PMC that the Board chooses to make. > > > > Great. Personally I think it makes sense for the PMC to manage its > own evolution. This is a non-trivial part of The Apache Way. > > I realize that the ASF Board has the ability in extraordinary > situations to intervene directly in a PMC's decision making process. > "As a last resort" and "a blunt instrument" are the terms I recall > being used earlier in reference to Board intervention. It will be > very interesting to see if they think this is a situation that > warrants such action.
Please don't quote things out of context, it doesn't help. Changing a resolution is not an "extraordinary situation", its part of the board's responsibility to the foundation. The PMC I currently chair, for example, had a couple of relevant and appropriate people added by the board before creation. That being said, I am not suggesting the board will take such an action, I cannot predict the actions of a board of 9. I will observe, that a concern has been raised and the reactions of this community to those concerns has been, on the whole, appreciative and appropriate (and I don't mean only Dave's statement above, in fact I dont think that is necessary). Ross > > -Rob > > > Regards, > > Dave > > > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> -- > >>> Ariel Constenla-Haile > >>> La Plata, Argentina > >
