On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> On 2012-10-20 12:49 PM Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> > >>> Well most of the artwork is done, is just a matter of doing the commit > to > >>> the right branch. Linux has png files so they are taken from the site, > >>> which also has the .ico and icm for windows and mac. Besides that, I > >>> wonder > >>> what else would be needed. > >>> Example Writer: > >>> Linux: > >>> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/**VisualDesign/gifs/Icons/** > >>> refresh_icons/pngs/OOo_Writer_**48x48.png< > http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/Icons/refresh_icons/pngs/OOo_Writer_48x48.png > > > >>> Windows: > >>> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/**VisualDesign/gifs/Icons/** > >>> refresh_icons/icos/OOo_Writer.**ico< > http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/Icons/refresh_icons/icos/OOo_Writer.ico > > > >>> OSX: Not required > >>> Mime-type: > >>> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/**VisualDesign/gifs/Icons/ODF_** > >>> icons/ODF_textdocument_**256x256.png< > http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/Icons/ODF_icons/ODF_textdocument_256x256.png > > > >>> > >> > >> Are you trying to eliminate the use of colour for the file icons again? > I > >> thought we had got rid of the colourless icons imposed on the community > by > >> Oracle against the community's wishes. > >> > > > > I dont see any other work been doine on branding. Not on the wiki nor on > > the website. Can you point out to a different community-builted work > about > > this? It make better sense to have the ones that Oracle has with the > > branding it has, thant has a partially implemented work. > > > > Well, we had lengthy discussions on branding around the time of the > AOO 3.4.0 release. That is when we went with the current website > logo. But we said at that time that we'd revisit this all with the > next major release. So I think any proposals are welcome. > I remember the process, but the discussions AFAIK weren't as lengthy, even less with the application as a whole. I actually think there was more chaos on OOo 2.4 wireframe gull. I remember a lot of designers put a good ammount of proposals and the winner was none of them. This made the community very upset: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/OOo3_Design http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen Just to mention, Nicu submit a good wealth of splashscreen: http://ooo.nicubunu.ro/splash_gallery/?gallery=ooo Granted the term splashscreen didn't mean brand, or iconset. > > But speaking for myself, I'd really like to see a comprehensive > proposal, since one criticism of our current state is that we lack a > comprehensive approach. Especially for those who are not familiar > with this old logo dispute with Oracle, it would be good to put down, > in one place (the wiki) a complete proposal. > That said I am aware of the horrible time that the Branding Guidelines took to be set in place, almost 6 months after working with Oracle. But is a testimony of how intense and thorough this work most be to take to create Visual Design, and guidelines. That is why I am not so into just changing the logo for sakes of it, without the proper specs and documentation behind it. Oracle decision (whether we like it or not) push the idea of white-blue theme with gradients, and have it on a grayscale except for the orb. Having a mixbag of 2.4 and 3.0 just makes it look bad and stalled IMO. > > Or, even if we had the outline/template for a proposal, e.g., "any > comprehensive branding proposal must define these N elements; 1, 2, > 3...N". Then we can ask for proposals and discuss them. Could even > have a contest ;-) > > > > >> > >> Get rid of the blue orb that Oracle imposed on the community by Oracle > as > >> part of their corporate branding. The previous logo on > >> openoffice.apache.org was far better than the blue orb on there now. > Get > >> rid of the designs that Oracle imposed on OpenOffice.org. > > > > > > Orb has many threads already, I wonder where you were then, and wha are > you > > suggesting to do instead. Orb is quite well discussed here. I am not > > opposed to go back to the old Sun-Impossed OpenOffice.org logo with the > > gulls and blue and black, and get back the ".org". But so far nobody has > > really pushed this. > > > > > >> > >> > >> The original discussion on the lack of color of OO3 generated different > >>> options which were ignored, should we adopt them now? > >>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=112141< > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=112141> > >>> > >> > >> Keep colour in the icons > > > > > > Colors and design are different things, did you open the attachments? > They > > have color on them and they look pretty opting for a circular iconset > looks > > much better than having half (application based icon) circular and > > (document mime) squared. > > > > > >> > >> > >> There was some icons donated on issuezzilla: > >>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=118820< > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118820> (not impressed) > >>> > >> > >> They are better than the ones you linked to. > >> > > > > Not really. > > > > > >> > >> -- > >> ______________________________**___ > >> > >> Larry I. Gusaas > >> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada > >> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com > >> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind > >> theirs." - Edgard Varese > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Alexandro Colorado > > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > > http://es.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
