On 4/14/06, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rogelio Serrano wrote:
> > You actually believe they will release all documentation for IP they do not 
> > own?
>
> ATI and NV own the programming interface, which would be the docs that
> people care about.
>

Which they say will  be used to reverse engineer the damn silicon. I
dont understand how that can be done. Maybe its just an excuse? Maybe
the patents holders are just unreasonable?

>
> > This will never happen. I dont think ATI and NVidia is interested in
> > bigger investment in linux. Its just not a big enough market for them.
>
> ATI, perhaps.  NV has a growing investment in Linux; they have been
> growing their Linux team in the past year or so.
>

And they are the most paranoid about IP and reverse engineering via
api's. I do admit they have the best support at the moment but i dont
play graphics intensive games in linux since splinter cell does not
have a linux version yet.

Its commendable that they are growing their linux team. Thats good for
X and Xorg.

>
> > The law guarantees that they cannot go into the open source market in
> > a big way.
>
> Fantasy.
>

Is it? This is my impression after the above reasons. IP is a fiction
of law right? Patent holders want to make sure their stuff is not
reverse engineered. And the card manufacturers dont want to get sued.
I just never heard NVidia and ATI saying otherwise.

Only way they can go around this if they have a team big enough team
to track developments with a few weeks lag. Just how big is big
enough? 7? 30? 50? Are they willing to link their drivers with uclibc?
how about building with llvm?

That guarantees that developers like me cant get in on the act anymore
except test, submit bug reports and wait until new versions are
released like some enslaved beta tester in windows.

Maybe open source graphics development just cant happen without big
bucks. And maybe i should just go on playing splinter cell in windows.

>         Jeff
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