Patrick McNamara wrote:
>>> Specialized may be a bit of overkill, but yes you do need the Lattice
>>> programming cable.  I have one I got with a Lattice eval kit that I am
>>> going to test when I get a moment.  I suspect that if you have a bit of
>>> experience with soldering, you could probably make one.
>>
>> Lattice was very good about donating one to the project. I suppose I
>> should investigate a discount for sale OGD1 users. Note that it is not
>> yet supported by urjtag and... requires 32bit Windows.
>>
>
> Perhaps we can find someone interested in fixing this problem.  I
> haven't tried running the XP10 tools under Wine yet, but that would
> be a bit better than having to have a full Windows VM.  Just have
> to address the programming problem.

Wine does not support USB at all, and probably will not. A programmer
connected by something other than USB is IMO a lot less useful.

Mark made UrJTAG work with the LFXP10e in January.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00055.html

Of course programming doesn't really require the Lattice cable if a
software other than ispLEVER or Diamond can be used. UrJTAG supports
a bunch of different JTAG cables, some if not all being very
affordable.

You could look for FT2232-based ones, there are Altera USB-Blaster
clones (both original and clones FT2232-based) for $30 or less, new
on eBay. I would go with that. I have good experience from this
particular seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Altera-FPGA-CPLD-USB-Blaster-programmer-JTAG-cable-/280546985105


I have no experience from this other seller, and from photos it looks
like the design uses a generic USB chip and emulates FT2232 behavior.
It might or might not work, but it's cute and almost too cheap not to
order just for fun:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Altera-FPGA-CPLD-USB-Blaster-programmer-JTAG-/320576596300


David Hilvert wrote:
> http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php?page=OGD1 indicates that at
> least one free webpack supports 3S4000.  ("The only free web pack that
> supports the 3S4000 is 6.3i with the later service packs installed.")
> If this isn't the case, the page should probably be updated with current
> information.

6.3i must be I don't know how many years old. Current version is 12
something.


> http://www.xilinx.com/publications/matrix/Software_matrix.pdf

Note that webpack only goes up to 3S1500 now.


> > As far as ISE goes, perhaps at some point we would approach Xilinx
> > to either donate licenses are perhaps provide deep discounts for
> > "community" or "educational" licenses for ISE.
> 
> I would suspect that being able to update the design is fairly
> important for most people interested in the OGD1.

Updating, ie. getting a bitstream onto the board, only requires that
cheap JTAG cable and UrJTAG to support the 3S4000. ISE is needed for
making any changes to the design.

Ah these little things like support tools..

I think it would be a good idea to approach Xilinx, but make sure to
find the right entry point.

Ideally they would donate full ISE licenses to the OGD1 community.
Second best would be that deep discount.
Worst case maybe they can donate one license to be shared in the
community, via SSH. Upload source code, it runs synthesis, get
bitstream and/or reports back. Sucks to need to be online to do
development, but would still be better than nothing. The OGD1 is
really useless for development without synthesis.


//Peter
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