The first thing _Any_ potential investor will ask is: "What is it you plan
to build?" - "How can we sell it?" - "What is our market?"

I agree with work talks, bull$hit walks and all, but you must have some
kind of actual plan in place before you start trying to drum up investors.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Attila Kinali <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:34:12 -0600
> Gregory Carter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I am concerned at the moment with capital. I don't really care about the
> > design religion as long as it is capitalized, and will meet open source
> > software goals. So I thought it would be interesting considering the
> > manufacturing ideas/organization.
>
> I'm more concerned with you throwing around weird ideas.
> It really seems like you have no idea how chip design and production
> work, how to build a successfull enterprise around an open source project,
> or anything mildly related.
>
> Yes, money is a very big issue but not the biggest one. The big question
> is whether you get enough skilled people doing work (instead of talk) in
> a short amount of time. You'd be surprised how many open source projects
> fail because of that (and even more companies). Unless you have a design
> that works, is bullet proof and makes coffee in the cycles between, there
> is no point in trying to get money to manufacture it. Even if you could
> get money, there is nothing to produce. And just by swinging around some
> ideas and talking big, you will not get anything done.
>
> Unlike you, there have been people, who have put a lot of time (many man
> years) and money (i guestimate several 10k CHF in total) into getting OGP
> as far as it is now. Even "just" getting OGD1 produced was a damn lot of
> EFFORT and was only possible because many people worked together[1].
>
>
> I would like to ask you to stop pushing ideas around and start doing
> something. Like writing some letters, meeting people and getting a big
> investor. Or doing some verilog coding. There are also drivers that
> need to be written... etc. Timothy will for sure be happy to give you
> a list of things that need to be done.
>
> If you cannot do any of these please be quiet and do not distract the
> people who are actually doing the work.
>
> Thanks
>
>                         Attila Kinali
>
> [1] BTW: Thanks to everyone who helped with OGP over all those years!
> I have a lot of respect for you and i am very gratefull for what
> you did!
>
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