Mike,
   Thank you for that clear explanation. It does indeed make sense.

Scott

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike 
Rylander
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:52 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Catalog holds status display - Hold queue and 
potential copies

Scott,

It's not that you can't have a hybrid, but that FIFO sites will end up getting 
their holds prioritized over proximity-based sites if there is resource sharing 
between them, all else being equal, as FIFO only cares about request time and 
proximity cares about "closeness".  Having just one or the other in use means 
nobody gets the short end of the stick.

HTH,


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On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 8:30 AM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Another interesting issue was raised in this discussion. Our consortium is all 
proximity because we were told that, if org units within a consortium plan to 
resource share, they must all be FIFO or proximity, but it appears some of you 
are hybrids. Can I assume you do not resource share at all or do not do so 
beyond the local library system?
Thank you,
Scott


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From: Open-ils-general 
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 On Behalf Of Diane Disbro
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:30 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Catalog holds status display - Hold queue and 
potential copies

I am very interested to hear if someone has done something with this other than 
try to explain to disgruntled patrons why they see in their online account that 
they are next in the queue for an item but they wait weeks or months to get it.

Thank you, Josh, for asking.

Diane Disbro
Circulation Coordinator/Branch Manager
Union Branch
Scenic Regional Library
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On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Josh Stompro 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello, Those of you that use age hold protection and non FIFO best hold 
selection sort order, what have you done with the status column of holds in 
your catalog.  We just noticed that it is showing the FIFO queue position for 
holds, along with all potential copies.  This gives users bad info since for us 
holds are sometimes filled in FIFO order for some orgs, and are filled based on 
proximity for other locations.  And since one org uses age hold protection, the 
total copy count isn’t accurate either since half the copies might be age hold 
protected so they cannot fill the users holds.

Did you just remove that section from templates/opac/parts/hold_status.tt2?  
Did you modify it in some way?  I would like to see examples of what you 
changed it to if you changed it.

Should the potential copies count exclude copies that are age hold protected 
and cannot be captured for that hold?  Right now it pulls from hold copy map, 
but it looks like restricting the copy count based on the age hold protection 
might be possible to add.

Thanks
Josh



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