Hi Diane,
No, proximity in Evergreen is different than geographic proximity. It is
the proximity each org unit has to each other in the Evergreen
hierarchy. As an example, a branch that's in the same system as your
library will have closer proximity than a branch in another library
system. As a result, the branches in your system will fill holds before
they look for one in another system.
There are ways in Evergreen to adjust proximity for holds if you need
the holds to fill a little differently. There is a longer explanation of
how proximity works and how it can be adjusted for holds at
http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.0/_org_unit_proximity_adjustments.html
Kathy
On 11/29/2017 10:20 AM, Diane Disbro wrote:
What is this “proximity” that people are talking about? I have been
told that Evergreen doesn’t recognize geography. Are proximity and
geography the same thing?
*Diane Disbro*
Circulation Coordinator/Branch Manager
Union Branch
Scenic Regional Library
308 Hawthorne Drive
Union, MO 63084
636-583-3224
ddis...@scenicregional.org <mailto:ddis...@scenicregional.org>
www.scenicregional.org
*From:*Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf
Of *Josh Stompro
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:58 AM
*To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
*Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Catalog holds status display - Hold
queue and potential copies
Hello Scott, we do resource share. One of our systems is 3x larger
than the other, so the smaller system uses age hold protection on
their new items to keep them home for a while. Otherwise we were
seeing 4x more holds placed by the larger system which was pulling a
disproportionate share of new material from the smaller system. The
smaller system also recently decided to use FIFO vs proximity for
their holds, while the larger system is sticking with check-in
proximity priority.
Most of the highly sought after items that have lots of holds are new
items in our experience, so the smaller system that is using FIFO will
only fill their own customers holds in FIFO order until the age hold
protection expires. Once it expires then there is a chance that the
larger system’s holds will get priority if they are older than the
remaining smaller systems holds. We don’t know if that is going to be
a problem in actual usage yet.
Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director
*From:*Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf
Of *scott.tho...@sparkpa.org <mailto:scott.tho...@sparkpa.org>
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:31 AM
*To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
*Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Catalog holds status display - Hold
queue and potential copies
Another interesting issue was raised in this discussion. Our
consortium is all proximity because we were told that, if org units
within a consortium plan to resource share, they must all be FIFO or
proximity, but it appears some of you are hybrids. Can I assume you do
not resource share at all or do not do so beyond the local library system?
Thank you,
Scott
Scott Thomas
Executive Director
*PaILS / SPARK*
(717) 873-9461
scott.tho...@sparkpa.org <mailto:scott.tho...@sparkpa.org>
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*From:*Open-ils-general
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf
Of *Diane Disbro
*Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 8:30 PM
*To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
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*Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Catalog holds status display - Hold
queue and potential copies
I am very interested to hear if someone has done something with this
other than try to explain to disgruntled patrons why they see in their
online account that they are next in the queue for an item but they
wait weeks or months to get it.
Thank you, Josh, for asking.
Diane Disbro
Circulation Coordinator/Branch Manager
Union Branch
Scenic Regional Library
308 Hawthorne Drive
Union, MO 63084
(636) 583-3224
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Josh Stompro
<stomp...@exchange.larl.org <mailto:stomp...@exchange.larl.org>> wrote:
Hello, Those of you that use age hold protection and non FIFO best
hold selection sort order, what have you done with the status
column of holds in your catalog. We just noticed that it is
showing the FIFO queue position for holds, along with all
potential copies. This gives users bad info since for us holds
are sometimes filled in FIFO order for some orgs, and are filled
based on proximity for other locations. And since one org uses
age hold protection, the total copy count isn’t accurate either
since half the copies might be age hold protected so they cannot
fill the users holds.
Did you just remove that section from
templates/opac/parts/hold_status.tt2? Did you modify it in some
way? I would like to see examples of what you changed it to if
you changed it.
Should the potential copies count exclude copies that are age hold
protected and cannot be captured for that hold? Right now it
pulls from hold copy map, but it looks like restricting the copy
count based on the age hold protection might be possible to add.
Thanks
Josh
Lake Agassiz Regional Library - Moorhead MN larl.org <http://larl.org>
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