At 10:16 PM +0000 on 7/15/99, Alain Farmer wrote:
>Alain : Less profit in the short-term but more profit in the long-term.
>It's not altruism, but rather "deferred gratification with a greater
>gain in mind", eh! That's more than OK in my book.
resisting urge to make political comment...
>Michael Fair : ...and make it spread like a virus,...
>
>Alain : I am still not sure about this one.
Metaphorically!
>Alain : You have a point there. This idea has potential. First of all,
>we make sure that everyone gets the credit that they're due (of
>course), whether their contribution is programming, graphics, etc.
>Their motives could be altruistic :) but they could also make
>contributions so that their expertise is recognized, so that eventually
>they could be hired for that expertise. We will no doubt do this
>informally (as I have already) but we could also network ourselves for
>the purpose of obtaining contracts or some needed workers, more
>formally. Perhaps a database of CVs, like many other sites have done,
>but I would prefer a database of individual skills. I recommend the
>philosophical book entitled "Les arbres de la connaissance"
I don't want to have to OCR every page and plug it into babelfish to read a
book...
>Alain : You're absolutely right. icheal. I am a recent graduate in
>Interactive Multimedia. All of my MM colleagues hate programming.
>Scripting is detested too. Even HTML markup is disdained.
Hmmm... they hate AppleScript? Probably not for the same reasons I do.
>Alain : They are going to turn to someone, that's for sure, because
>coding in any of its forms is shunned for the most part, and I don't no
>anyone that is in MM and is also a C++ programmer. It's like oil and
>water!
Hmmm.... I am in an ametuer(sp?) way.
>Alain : I had forgot to consider this high-maintenance aspect of
>reselling/supporting CD versions of OC. It would be a major headache,
>and an outfit like RedHat would do a much better job than we would.
>Besides, it would sidetrack our research and development efforts.
Yep. And we'll happily take the $100-hour consulting jobs :) Mmmm...
Capitalism :) (sort of like Homer and a doughnut, aren't I?)
>Alain : Free non-exclusive distribution of OC would be my vote now. You
>have all persuaded me.
Perl Artistic?
>
>Michael Fair : I like the LGPL and do not consider standalones "derived
>works" which means standalones can be released.
>
>Alain : LGPL has recently been criticized because apparently it would
>constrain standalones to the same licence as OC ... that it spread like
>a virus to all derived works.
Correct.
>
>Anthony : Whether you consider them derived works does not matter. It's
>a matter of law, and they are. If you combine a stack and OpenCard the
>resulting program is a derived work of both OpenCard and the program.
>And if we try to say that "standalones are not covered" we run into the
>problems, similar to what I responded to Alain with.
>
>Alain : Which is why you are not in favour of LGPL, and would prefer
>that we use Perl Artistic instead, right Anthony?
That is one of the principle reasons.
