- In response to Linas: I'm excited for a long time!! Thanks for the introduction, I read a lot of OpenCog in this period, the wiki is big and you have published a lot of papers. "For trademark reasons, the open-source code should be called "Eva" not "Sophia", we decided that was the proper way to avoid trademark issues." Now I understand why Eva exists. "The code "used to work"; there are docker..." I have seen the splitting of OpenCog into the various modules and i'm currently working without docker. I would avoid an Eva ready-to-use, I had looked at the various files and I plan to extract parts of the code and reorganize them for my project.
" There is little/no actual "AGI" in that code base." Regarding AGI, I am aware of the distance that separates us from the goal. But in my simplistic view (don't kill me for this phrase), human intelligence is just an excellent inference on an excellent knowledge base maintained by excellent learning. Excellence is a matter of progress. The generality of the atomspace is incredible, if all the learning algorithms spoke in Atomese and collaborated on the atomspace, it would be a good starting point IMO! If I'm not mistaken, the interface with external libraries is one of your goals in OpenCog Hyperon. This is to say that I think you are closer to AGI than it looks. - In reply to Nil: (on Slack i'm named Raschild) I had seen the beginning of the work and it is very interesting. In the next few days I will look at the current state. Two quick questions: 1) How complicated is it to work directly with Ros + Gazebo compared to Malmo and Gym? 2) Are Values already usable instead of OctoMap and SpaceTime server? In conclusion: * My master's proposal has already been accepted with the proviso to get a feasible project. So, aim for a goal and try to achieve it. If so, excellent; if not, show why it failed (I will try to avoid it). * The direction of the project is still incomplete. Unfortunately, i can't figure out if it takes me 1 day, 1 month or 1 year to understand/implement a certain code. I started with the reasoning: I am currently learning the inference rules and how they work with the atomspace, I have seen part of the examples in ure and pln and I was trying to understand the blocksworld problem developed by Anatoly Belikov here: https://github.com/noskill/ure/tree/planning/examples/ure/planning * Ideally my goal was to extend the "model of the world" to work more with objects than people and to extend the "self-model" to execute navigation and manipulation plans. In all of this, I haven't yet explored the learning. Michele Il giorno martedì 23 marzo 2021 alle 06:19:25 UTC+1 Nil ha scritto: > Forwarding to opencog as I forgot to reply-all. > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: New user [was Re: [opencog-dev] Problem in atom deletion > from postgreSQL > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 07:15:10 +0200 > From: Nil Geisweiller <[email protected]> > To: Michele Thiella <[email protected]> > > Hi Michele, > > I'm working on something that might be relevant to your work, see > > https://github.com/opencog/rocca > https://github.com/singnet/rocca (mirror) > > it's a WIP and advancing slowly due to myself being involved with other > projects, but it has IMO much potential, especially in term of > leveraging OpenCog reasoning capabilities, if that's what your into. > > Nil > > On 3/21/21 1:10 PM, Michele Thiella wrote: > > You're right, I didn't introduce myself properly! I mentioned my plans > > in response to one of the previous conversations but it was the wrong > > place so it got lost. > > Let's start again in the right way: > > > > Hello everyone, I'm Michele Thiella from Italy (Padua). > > I am about to graduate in Computer Engineering at the University of > Padua. > > I have always been passionate about artificial intelligence and, more > > generally, about everything that has not yet been > > invented/discovered/solved. > > About 6 months ago I chose the path for my master's thesis: AGI. I > > started reading around until I got to you and I was blown away. > > I presented your work (roughly) to my Thesis Supervisors, trying to get > > approval for a thesis involving OpenCog. > > And here we are. > > > > For my thesis the proposal would be to use OpenCog to do TAMP. > > More precisely, using a simplified version of Sophia's architecture, > > switching Blender with Ros and Sophia with a much simpler robot. > > Leaving out the emotional sphere of the robot and aiming at the > > resolution of objectives, perhaps achieving cooperation between robots > > through a single knowledge base. > > Or at least that was the idea. > > > > I don't think I explained it the way I wanted but I hope it goes well. > > > > Il giorno sabato 20 marzo 2021 alle 20:04:05 UTC+1 linas ha scritto: > > > > So, out of curiosity, what are you using OpenCog for? What are you > > attempting to do? You're new here, you should introduce yourself! > > > > -- Linas > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:42 PM Michele Thiella > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You were right! After the pull everything works! It works so > > well that it has kept the backwards-compat layer and it works > > even without the exclamation mark haha > > > > Regarding RockDB, I tried to install it but now I don't remember > > at what point I stopped and why .. but I definitely had space > > problems. Too bad because it inspired me a lot as storage, > > anyway 50% slower is really a lot! > > However (unfortunately) I have skills with postgresql so for now > > I am satisfied, since everything works. > > Thanks a lot for the answer! Good work! > > > > Michele Thiella > > Il giorno mercoledì 10 marzo 2021 alle 23:35:42 UTC+1 linas ha > > scritto: > > > > Hi Michele, > > > > Just around the same time that you sent this message (or a > > day before?) I spotted and fixed a problem with atom > > deletion. So, please try rebuilding and reinstalling the > > atomspace. (git pull; cd build; make -j; sudo make install) > > -- let me know if that solves the problem. > > > > Note also, the proper name is cog-delete! (with an > > exclamation mark at the end) I may have removed the > > backwards-compat layer that allowed it to work without the > > exclamation mark.. > > > > Note also: there is a RocksDB backend too. It might be > > easier to use (no config required). In some synthetic > > benchmarks, its 2x or 3x faster than postgres. In the one > > "real-life" app that I'm using, its 10%-50% slower. Go > > figure. Anyway its at > > https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks > > <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks> > > > > (There is also a network server backend: > > https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog > > <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog> ... the README > > explains more) > > > > -- Linas > > > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:58 AM Michele Thiella > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Goodmorning everyone, > > i have a simple problem about deleting atoms in postgresql. > > According to what I understand, to delete an atom saved > > in postgres I should use: > > (cog-delete (Concept "asdf")) > > The command is successful, the atom is removed from the > > atomspace but not from the postgresql database. Could > > someone kindly tell me why? > > The prostgresql backend should be configured correctly, > > according to the guide on the wiki ... saving new atoms > > in the database works. > > Thanks in advance, I apologize for the inconvenience > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to > > the Google Groups "opencog" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > > from it, send an email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/8dd1cfa3-0e8a-4d85-ba2a-6b38fcd2aea7n%40googlegroups.com > > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/8dd1cfa3-0e8a-4d85-ba2a-6b38fcd2aea7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >. > > > > > > > > -- > > Patrick: Are they laughing at us? > > Sponge Bob: No, Patrick, they are laughing next to us. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "opencog" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > it, send an email to [email protected]. > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/f5726803-91a0-405d-99b4-deefeb48486dn%40googlegroups.com > > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/f5726803-91a0-405d-99b4-deefeb48486dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >. > > > > > > > > -- > > Patrick: Are they laughing at us? > > Sponge Bob: No, Patrick, they are laughing next to us. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "opencog" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/94d7c89f-5547-4ef8-9de6-668972bfb385n%40googlegroups.com > > > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/94d7c89f-5547-4ef8-9de6-668972bfb385n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. 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