On 3/24/21 2:46 AM, Adrian Borucki wrote:
Just to throw in my 3 cents here, I have done some work on moving ROCCA to use the MineRL’s Gym API to access Minecraft, instead of using a separate Malmo wrapper. It works in the sense that I can run the example code in that way and it simplifies the whole design somewhat, as interfacing with Minecraft is reduced to relying on a familiar structure of a Gym API. I also have a setup where I can run the whole thing in a Docker container, so it’s almost reproducible (there is a minor file edit needed).

That's very cool, Adrian. BTW, anything that doesn't break the existing examples and doesn't fundamentally change the design for the worst, you should feel free to create a PR for it.

An idea that I wrote about on Discord was to bring in some unsupervised image segmentator (like MONet), train it on the MineRL dataset (they have a dataset of Minecraft traces) and then use that to have some information about visual objects available to the agent. For now I am stuck a bit though, as sadly the loading code they provided for their dataset has memory leak issues, so I will have to write my own, it shouldn’t prove too difficult as
I just need the video frames but I have to get around to implement it yet.

:+1:

Nil

P.S: BTW, I'm on discord now, my id is ngeiswei.

    Do you want to have a call (say Friday, as it's ROCCA day for me)? I
    could walk you through the code, to help you decide whether you want to
    work on it, or else work on Eva.

    Nil

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     >
     > Michele
     >
     > Il giorno martedì 23 marzo 2021 alle 06:19:25 UTC+1 Nil ha scritto:
     >
     > Forwarding to opencog as I forgot to reply-all.
     >
     > -------- Forwarded Message --------
     > Subject: Re: New user [was Re: [opencog-dev] Problem in atom
    deletion
     > from postgreSQL
     > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 07:15:10 +0200
     > From: Nil Geisweiller <[email protected]>
     > To: Michele Thiella <[email protected]>
     >
     > Hi Michele,
     >
     > I'm working on something that might be relevant to your work, see
     >
     > https://github.com/opencog/rocca
    <https://github.com/opencog/rocca> <https://github.com/opencog/rocca
    <https://github.com/opencog/rocca>>
     > https://github.com/singnet/rocca
    <https://github.com/singnet/rocca> <https://github.com/singnet/rocca
    <https://github.com/singnet/rocca>>
     > (mirror)
     >
     > it's a WIP and advancing slowly due to myself being involved with
    other
     > projects, but it has IMO much potential, especially in term of
     > leveraging OpenCog reasoning capabilities, if that's what your into.
     >
     > Nil
     >
     > On 3/21/21 1:10 PM, Michele Thiella wrote:
     > > You're right, I didn't introduce myself properly! I mentioned my
     > plans
     > > in response to one of the previous conversations but it was the
     > wrong
     > > place so it got lost.
     > > Let's start again in the right way:
     > >
     > > Hello everyone, I'm Michele Thiella from Italy (Padua).
     > > I am about to graduate in Computer Engineering at the University
     > of Padua.
     > > I have always been passionate about artificial intelligence and,
     > more
     > > generally, about everything that has not yet been
     > > invented/discovered/solved.
     > > About 6 months ago I chose the path for my master's thesis: AGI. I
     > > started reading around until I got to you and I was blown away.
     > > I presented your work (roughly) to my Thesis Supervisors, trying
     > to get
     > > approval for a thesis involving OpenCog.
     > > And here we are.
     > >
     > > For my thesis the proposal would be to use OpenCog to do TAMP.
     > > More precisely, using a simplified version of Sophia's
    architecture,
     > > switching Blender with Ros and Sophia with a much simpler robot.
     > > Leaving out the emotional sphere of the robot and aiming at the
     > > resolution of objectives, perhaps achieving cooperation between
     > robots
     > > through a single knowledge base.
     > > Or at least that was the idea.
     > >
     > > I don't think I explained it the way I wanted but I hope it goes
     > well.
     > >
     > > Il giorno sabato 20 marzo 2021 alle 20:04:05 UTC+1 linas ha
    scritto:
     > >
     > > So, out of curiosity, what are you using OpenCog for? What are you
     > > attempting to do? You're new here, you should introduce yourself!
     > >
     > > -- Linas
     > >
     > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:42 PM Michele Thiella
     > > <[email protected]> wrote:
     > >
     > >
     > > You were right! After the pull everything works! It works so
     > > well that it has kept the backwards-compat layer and it works
     > > even without the exclamation mark haha
     > >
     > > Regarding RockDB, I tried to install it but now I don't remember
     > > at what point I stopped and why .. but I definitely had space
     > > problems. Too bad because it inspired me a lot as storage,
     > > anyway 50% slower is really a lot!
     > > However (unfortunately) I have skills with postgresql so for now
     > > I am satisfied, since everything works.
     > > Thanks a lot for the answer! Good work!
     > >
     > > Michele Thiella
     > > Il giorno mercoledì 10 marzo 2021 alle 23:35:42 UTC+1 linas ha
     > > scritto:
     > >
     > > Hi Michele,
     > >
     > > Just around the same time that you sent this message (or a
     > > day before?) I spotted and fixed a problem with atom
     > > deletion. So, please try rebuilding and reinstalling the
     > > atomspace.  (git pull; cd build; make -j; sudo make install)
     > > -- let me know if that solves the problem.
     > >
     > > Note also, the proper name is cog-delete!  (with an
     > > exclamation mark at the end) I may have removed the
     > > backwards-compat layer that allowed it to work without the
     > > exclamation mark..
     > >
     > > Note also: there is a RocksDB backend too. It might be
     > > easier to use (no config required). In some synthetic
     > > benchmarks, its 2x or 3x faster than postgres. In the one
     > > "real-life" app that I'm using, its 10%-50% slower. Go
     > > figure.  Anyway its at
     > > https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks
    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks>
     > <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks
    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks>>
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    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks>
     > <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks
    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-rocks>>>
     > >
     > > (There is also a network server backend:
     > > https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog
    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog>
     > <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog
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    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog>
     > <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog
    <https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog>>> ... the README
     > > explains more)
     > >
     > > -- Linas
     > >
     > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:58 AM Michele Thiella
     > > <[email protected]> wrote:
     > >
     > > Goodmorning everyone,
     > > i have a simple problem about deleting atoms in postgresql.
     > > According to what I understand, to delete an atom saved
     > > in postgres I should use:
     > > (cog-delete (Concept "asdf"))
     > > The command is successful, the atom is removed from the
     > > atomspace but not from the postgresql database. Could
     > > someone kindly tell me why?
     > > The prostgresql backend should be configured correctly,
     > > according to the guide on the wiki ... saving new atoms
     > > in the database works.
     > > Thanks in advance, I apologize for the inconvenience
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