Il giorno martedì 23 marzo 2021 alle 15:12:54 UTC+1 Nil ha scritto:

> On 3/23/21 1:01 PM, Michele Thiella wrote: 
> > - In reply to Nil: (on Slack i'm named Raschild) 
> > I had seen the beginning of the work and it is very interesting. In the 
> > next few days I will look at the current state. 
> > Two quick questions: 
> > 1) How complicated is it to work directly with Ros + Gazebo compared to 
> > Malmo and Gym? 
>
> I don't know as I've never used Ros or Gazebo. Working with Malmo and 
> Gym is fairly easy but that's cause they have been designed this way, 
> and as a result they are fairly limited. For instance the communication 
> protocol is completely synchronous, it's certainly not something you'd 
> want to use to control a robot. 
>
> > 2) Are Values already usable instead of OctoMap and SpaceTime server? 
>
> At the current stage ROCCA uses neither values, nor even octomap or 
> spacetime server. Everything, including spacetime events, lives in the 
> atomspace, which is extremely inefficient but is not my concern for now. 
> My concern is to build an agent that makes decisions as rationally as 
> possible, in unknown and uncertain environments. 
>
> > In conclusion: 
> > * My master's proposal has already been accepted with the proviso to get 
> > a feasible project. So, aim for a goal and try to achieve it. If so, 
> > excellent; if not, show why it failed (I will try to avoid it). 
> > 
> > * The direction of the project is still incomplete. Unfortunately, i 
> > can't figure out if it takes me 1 day, 1 month or 1 year to 
> > understand/implement a certain code. 
> > I started with the reasoning: I am currently learning the inference 
> > rules and how they work with the atomspace, I have seen part of the 
> > examples in ure and pln and I was trying to understand the blocksworld 
> > problem developed by Anatoly Belikov here: 
> > https://github.com/noskill/ure/tree/planning/examples/ure/planning 
> > 
> > * Ideally my goal was to extend the "model of the world" to work more 
> > with objects than people and to extend the "self-model" to execute 
> > navigation and manipulation plans. In all of this, I haven't yet 
> > explored the learning. 
>
> Based on what you're saying I think ROCCA would be a good fit. Consider 
> of course that it is very early stage. I don't mind to semi-mentor you 
> as long as you're somewhat autonomous (which you seem to be). 
>
> Do you want to have a call (say Friday, as it's ROCCA day for me)? I 
> could walk you through the code, to help you decide whether you want to 
> work on it, or else work on Eva. 
>
Nil 
>
>
Hi Nill,
first of all thank you, it would be a pleasure to have you as a semi-mentor.
Until now, I'm autonomous and it seems that it's working for me too.
ROCCA is of great interest to me, as I replied to Linas, I realized that my 
initial idea was a little different, more general and less innovative. 
Build scaffolding!
It may be one direction, but ROCCA may be a better one!
A call might be the best solution, as well as a great opportunity for me.
My spoken English is not the best, but it will be a way to improve that too.
Unfortunately, this week I'm busy with other university things, could it be 
one of the next Fridays?
Meanwhile, I'll try to get a clearer idea of all these news.

Thanks so much again

Michele

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