Amahdy, I think access to information is an important topic even in the domain of FOSS. I don't agree that there is any topic in the world that is very sensitive.
Rayna, I agree that this is a totally stupid ruling. Yet the NTRA has to comply or the minister will be jailed if he failed to implement the legal ruling. On a personal level though, I am very pro-blocking all Google services so we can start depending on alternatives. M. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Rayna <[email protected]> wrote: > >> FWIW, this ruling is just pointless. Nothing has happened. The NTRA won't >> allow such things. Btw, it is NOT Google blocking but Youtube ban for a >> month. The ruling can be appealed. There are 3 lawsuits (2 against Google, >> 1 against Youtube). Only the lawsuit against Youtube is concerned here. >> Please mind that this lawsuit is utterly stupid, not only from a technical >> point of view but also based on its motivations: the appeals lawyer who >> filed the lawsuit did so on Sept 18 whereas the trailer was already blocked >> on Youtube by Google itself on Sept 12. The ruling is thus a "punishement" >> for not removing the trailer. Whatever this "punishement" thing means. Such >> a move is simply ridiculous as some Einstein in Egypt is expecting Google >> to comply with its will and not with US laws... There was the same stupid >> situation in France when a Jewish student organization filed a lawsuit >> against Twitter to remove anti-semitic tweets. >> >> At this point, there is no need of campaign, imho. There are more >> important digital issues to work on -- implementing FOSS is one of them, >> surveillance software is another, recent developments on information laws >> also crucial -- so no need to waste time and efforts on a non-event :) >> >> > > >> Lastly, I disagree with the standpoint that FOSS mailing lists has >> nothing to do with internet governance. On the contrary: you cannot stay in >> your own box and cut yourself from other related issues. Digital literacy >> is achieved through this all, not just geeking out alone on home computer >> console ;) >> > > There are other mailing lists for geeks and similar stuff. The purpose of > this mailing list is "Raising the FOSS awareness, > on governmental level, society level, and educational level". Especially > that the topic is very sensitive, I was just suggesting that we don't need > to discuss it here. > > -- > AMahdy AbdElAziz > http://www.AMahdy.net <http://www.amahdy.net/> > > > >> >> Best, >> >> >> 2013/2/13 AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]> >> >>> In my opinion, we should not discuss this here as it's a very itchy >>> topic. Especially that it's completely off-topic, it has nothing to do with >>> opensource. >>> >>> -- >>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Ahmed Ezzat <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ليه حاسس ان مفيش اي حد مهتم بموضوع حجب كل خدمات جوجل دا؟ >>>> حد عندة اي افكار لأي حاجة ممكن نعملها؟ حتي لو Campaign مثلا! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Change l'ordre du monde plutôt que tes désirs." >> >> http://de.linkedin.com/in/raynas >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenEgypt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenEgypt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
