Ha3 ya Mostafa, you just kicked off Trollday :)) DuckDuckGo has still a long way to go. You have a point though as Google is brainwashing many people with its SaaS strategy. And *this* is a matter of discussion for a FOSS-focused list.
My 2 cents, 2013/2/13 Mostafa Hussein <[email protected]> > Amahdy, I think access to information is an important topic even in the > domain of FOSS. I don't agree that there is any topic in the world that is > very sensitive. > > Rayna, I agree that this is a totally stupid ruling. Yet the NTRA has to > comply or the minister will be jailed if he failed to implement the legal > ruling. On a personal level though, I am very pro-blocking all Google > services so we can start depending on alternatives. > > M. > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Rayna <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> FWIW, this ruling is just pointless. Nothing has happened. The NTRA >>> won't allow such things. Btw, it is NOT Google blocking but Youtube ban for >>> a month. The ruling can be appealed. There are 3 lawsuits (2 against >>> Google, 1 against Youtube). Only the lawsuit against Youtube is concerned >>> here. Please mind that this lawsuit is utterly stupid, not only from a >>> technical point of view but also based on its motivations: the appeals >>> lawyer who filed the lawsuit did so on Sept 18 whereas the trailer was >>> already blocked on Youtube by Google itself on Sept 12. The ruling is thus >>> a "punishement" for not removing the trailer. Whatever this "punishement" >>> thing means. Such a move is simply ridiculous as some Einstein in Egypt is >>> expecting Google to comply with its will and not with US laws... There was >>> the same stupid situation in France when a Jewish student organization >>> filed a lawsuit against Twitter to remove anti-semitic tweets. >>> >>> At this point, there is no need of campaign, imho. There are more >>> important digital issues to work on -- implementing FOSS is one of them, >>> surveillance software is another, recent developments on information laws >>> also crucial -- so no need to waste time and efforts on a non-event :) >>> >>> >> >> >>> Lastly, I disagree with the standpoint that FOSS mailing lists has >>> nothing to do with internet governance. On the contrary: you cannot stay in >>> your own box and cut yourself from other related issues. Digital literacy >>> is achieved through this all, not just geeking out alone on home computer >>> console ;) >>> >> >> There are other mailing lists for geeks and similar stuff. The purpose of >> this mailing list is "Raising the FOSS awareness, >> on governmental level, society level, and educational level". Especially >> that the topic is very sensitive, I was just suggesting that we don't need >> to discuss it here. >> >> -- >> AMahdy AbdElAziz >> http://www.AMahdy.net <http://www.amahdy.net/> >> >> >> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> 2013/2/13 AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]> >>> >>>> In my opinion, we should not discuss this here as it's a very itchy >>>> topic. Especially that it's completely off-topic, it has nothing to do with >>>> opensource. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Ahmed Ezzat <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> ليه حاسس ان مفيش اي حد مهتم بموضوع حجب كل خدمات جوجل دا؟ >>>>> حد عندة اي افكار لأي حاجة ممكن نعملها؟ حتي لو Campaign مثلا! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Change l'ordre du monde plutôt que tes désirs." >>> >>> http://de.linkedin.com/in/raynas >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenEgypt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenEgypt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- "Change l'ordre du monde plutôt que tes désirs." http://de.linkedin.com/in/raynas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. 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