I'm saying its "very" sensitive based on why there was a case in the courts at the first place - Google refused to remove the film and comply to the white house request: http://mashable.com/2012/09/15/youtube-white-house/
I didn't want to reply again but just wanted to clarify my point. Mostafa has a different opinion that access to information is somehow related to opensource and that this topic is not sensitive, but anyway, am very inclined not to discuss this here. -- AMahdy AbdElAziz http://www.AMahdy.net On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Rayna <[email protected]> wrote: > Ha3 ya Mostafa, you just kicked off Trollday :)) > DuckDuckGo has still a long way to go. You have a point though as Google > is brainwashing many people with its SaaS strategy. And *this* is a matter > of discussion for a FOSS-focused list. > > My 2 cents, > > > 2013/2/13 Mostafa Hussein <[email protected]> > >> Amahdy, I think access to information is an important topic even in the >> domain of FOSS. I don't agree that there is any topic in the world that is >> very sensitive. >> >> Rayna, I agree that this is a totally stupid ruling. Yet the NTRA has to >> comply or the minister will be jailed if he failed to implement the legal >> ruling. On a personal level though, I am very pro-blocking all Google >> services so we can start depending on alternatives. >> >> M. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Rayna <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> FWIW, this ruling is just pointless. Nothing has happened. The NTRA >>>> won't allow such things. Btw, it is NOT Google blocking but Youtube ban for >>>> a month. The ruling can be appealed. There are 3 lawsuits (2 against >>>> Google, 1 against Youtube). Only the lawsuit against Youtube is concerned >>>> here. Please mind that this lawsuit is utterly stupid, not only from a >>>> technical point of view but also based on its motivations: the appeals >>>> lawyer who filed the lawsuit did so on Sept 18 whereas the trailer was >>>> already blocked on Youtube by Google itself on Sept 12. The ruling is thus >>>> a "punishement" for not removing the trailer. Whatever this "punishement" >>>> thing means. Such a move is simply ridiculous as some Einstein in Egypt is >>>> expecting Google to comply with its will and not with US laws... There was >>>> the same stupid situation in France when a Jewish student organization >>>> filed a lawsuit against Twitter to remove anti-semitic tweets. >>>> >>>> At this point, there is no need of campaign, imho. There are more >>>> important digital issues to work on -- implementing FOSS is one of them, >>>> surveillance software is another, recent developments on information laws >>>> also crucial -- so no need to waste time and efforts on a non-event :) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> Lastly, I disagree with the standpoint that FOSS mailing lists has >>>> nothing to do with internet governance. On the contrary: you cannot stay in >>>> your own box and cut yourself from other related issues. Digital literacy >>>> is achieved through this all, not just geeking out alone on home computer >>>> console ;) >>>> >>> >>> There are other mailing lists for geeks and similar stuff. The purpose >>> of this mailing list is "Raising the FOSS awareness, >>> on governmental level, society level, and educational level". Especially >>> that the topic is very sensitive, I was just suggesting that we don't need >>> to discuss it here. >>> >>> -- >>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>> http://www.AMahdy.net <http://www.amahdy.net/> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/2/13 AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> In my opinion, we should not discuss this here as it's a very itchy >>>>> topic. Especially that it's completely off-topic, it has nothing to do >>>>> with >>>>> opensource. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Ahmed Ezzat <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ليه حاسس ان مفيش اي حد مهتم بموضوع حجب كل خدمات جوجل دا؟ >>>>>> حد عندة اي افكار لأي حاجة ممكن نعملها؟ حتي لو Campaign مثلا! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Change l'ordre du monde plutôt que tes désirs." >>>> >>>> http://de.linkedin.com/in/raynas >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenEgypt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > "Change l'ordre du monde plutôt que tes désirs." > > http://de.linkedin.com/in/raynas > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenEgypt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. 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