Ed, I agree entirely with what you say.  I keep being reminded of the
excellent ISO definition of Consensus:

Consensus is general agreement, characterized by the absence of sustained
opposition to substantial issues by any important part of the concerned
interests and by a process which involves seeking to take into account the
views of all parties concerned and to reconcile any conflicting arguments.

Tim
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> From: "William E Hammond" <hammo001 at mc.duke.edu>
> Reply-To: "William E Hammond" <hammo001 at mc.duke.edu>
> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 13:50:25 -0400
> To: Gerard Freriks <gfrer at luna.nl>
> Cc: Mike Mair <mikemair at es.co.nz>, Sam Heard <sam.heard at 
> flinders.edu.au>,
> Thomas Beale <thomas at deepthought.com.au>, <openehr-technical at 
> openehr.org>,
> Stan Huff <COSHuff at ihc.com>, "Rishel,Wes" <wes.rishel at gartner.com>
> Subject: Re: The concept of contribution
> 
> 
> It is difficult for me to stay on the sidelines.  HL7 recognizes the value
> of CEN and GEHR to its work.  HL7, for example, has invited the chair of
> CEN and the convenors of the work groups to the next meeting.  What I think
> we need to declare is what is real and what is pretend in working together
> - on both sides. I declare and I believe that HL7 is interested in both
> groups.  What that means is not that we (or I) will drop what I am doing
> and accept something different.  What it means that I am willing to dialog
> and debate the issues. I firmly believe that all groups will be mush better
> off if we discuss and deal with our differences rather than each go our
> different ways.  We need to find a way for all groups to move ahead
> together and still do what we each have to do to stay alive and even grow.
> My belief is that V3 will become stable much more quickly than Gerard
> implies. I agree that CDA needs to move ahead with CDA level 3. I am also
> curious as to what clinical templates will do to level 3.  I certainly hope
> we can get together on architypes, GPICS, clinical templates, and Huffs/3M
> clinical data models.
> 
> What say?
> 
> Ed Hammond
> By the way, these are my opiniuons. I'm not sure anyone else wants them.
> 
> Ed
> 
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