Hi Karsten,

Karsten Hilbert wrote:
>
> Recording "substance use" is more intended to record a
> *fact* about the lifestyle of an individual rather than an
> *intent to treat* as with prescription drugs.
>
> There's a fine line as always: herbal teas, OTC drugs etc
> may or may not have been intended to be treatment by the
> provider. However, disambiguating such in a given case is at
> the discreetion of the provider/patient in question. OpenEHR
> needs to provide facilities for both.

It seems to me that 1) we want to provide a mechanism for recording _all_ 
substances used, and 2) for each, we want to record who 'prescribed' it. 
Patients "intend to treat" when they ingest herbal teas, OTC drugs, etc.. 
While I definitely see the value in recording the 'prescriber', I still 
don't see the value in creating a seperate archetype for 'substances' that 
are not provider prescribed.  In fact, it seems to me to create unnecessary 
complexity.

Example... A patient is undergoing chemotherapy.  The patient finds that 
smoking marijuana helps control the nausea.  If the patient lives in 
California their physician can prescribe the use of marijuana.  It they live 
in Texas, its use cannot be prescribed.

Another example... A patient wants to quit smoking cigarettes.  The 
physician prescribes Nicorette gum.  Then the FDA approves Nicorette for OTC 
sale.

What would be the information value of recording this information with 
different archetypes?  What would seperate archetypes allow me to do that I 
couldn't do as easily with a single archetype with a 'prescriber' attribute 
that could accomodate a value of 'self'?

Thanks,
Bill 


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