> You have also raised a couple of technical points. Graham has I think
> responded clearly on the data types - in an ideal world the ISO data
> type standard would be ready to use before 13606 is finalised, but as
> this is not the case we have on a temporary basis referenced the CEN
> TS 14796 (and included some explicit data types as you have seen).
> These will eventually be superseded by the ISO ones). openEHR data
> types are one of the input feeds to ISO.

yes, good.

> extension attributes of the II data type. Ideally I should have found
> an expert to give me more plausible values, but the main purpose of
> the example was to show how the clinical hierarchy and revision works
> and many of the attribute values for IDs and codes are very clearly
> made up ones (such as the terminology ones). If you have the time to
> send me some corrections (more plausible values) I can still
> incorporate them. Most readers have accepted that examples such as
> this inevitably have limitations in their completeness, but I agree
> that it's not ideal.

Yes, I understand how difficult it is to put meaningful examples in
a spec and keep them accurate. I actually wasn't worried about the
OIDS or codes.. I had a philosophical problem with the use of
magic dates

I would have though

ehr_system.valid_time = 1/1/1990 - 1/1/3000

should be

ehr_system.valid_time.lowClosed = false
ehr_system.valid_time.highClosed = false

to show that where no specific values are
meaningful, the standard still has ways to
represent the real intent - i.e. that this extract
has no restrictions on the time range in which
it is valid.

I think its important that examples show best
practice wherever possible - as a programmer,
there is always a temptation on my part, whenever
reading a specifcation, to go straight to the
examples section and see if there is an example
that matches what I want to do! And we'd hate
lazy programmers like me from getting the wrong
ideas..

> Gerard has also responded to you on archetype specification currency
> within openEHR and 13606. Standards need to be stable, and standards
> organisations assume that this stability is reasonable and desirable
> for the marketplace. A innovative organisation like openEHR has the
> freedom to make changes more rapidly, but it also wishes for them to
> be validated in real implementations. The rapid turn around that you
> describe is for a document change, not for a field-validated
> improvement!

True, but there have been some changes e.g. the quoting rules for
unicode, that have been more than cosmetic textual changes. I am just
concerned that the freedoms that openEHR has to change things
rapidly might be lost if the spec gets tied to the CEN/ISO process.

Andrew
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