I can see the point now. I couldn't understand the benefits of the new UID
attributes.
It is OK if they become mandatory in 2.0. We just have to have clear rules
to know when a new instance_id has to be created.

2014-11-18 14:31 GMT+01:00 Thomas Beale <thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com>:

>  On 18/11/2014 12:50, David Moner wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I was not aware of this addition. It is clear that having these UIDs it
> will be simpler to check if the archetype has changed, as you say. But is
> it also the intention of these UIDs to be used to fill the archetype_id
> attributes in the RM instances? Or the link between the instance and an
> specific archetype will be done using the traditional archetype
> identifier+version+revision+build? Moreover, if now we will have unique
> identifiers with version+revision+build, why do we need an additional UID?
>
>  David
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Personally I don't think UIDs are needed; checking if an archetype has
> changed is easier to do with an MD5. UIDs are mostly a distraction.
>
> But some people and more particularly governments like them. So if we
> include them in the AOM, then I guess they have to work. So making them
> optional won't work - because they can't be generated from anything, you
> have to 'have them' which means they have to have been created at the right
> point in time, usually by the creator or modifier of some artefact.
>
> I don't see any utility in mixing UIDs into the human-readable ID (HRID)
> either in models or in data. They aren't shorter, and you can't infer
> anything from them as you can with the HRID, and noone who needs to inspect
> data (as inescapably happens routinely in integration development work) can
> easily work with UIDs. So their utility is largely imaginary in my view.
> But not everyone agrees with that....
>
> - thomas
>
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