I have added some links. many of the questions seem inappropriate, not
applicable, or virtually impossible to answer within the health domain.

Ian

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On 6 January 2016 at 08:00, Bakke, Silje Ljosland <
silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no> wrote:

> Thanks Ian!
>
>
>
> It’s good to see there are so many “yes”-es! However, we’ll need some more
> info, for instance links to where the “relevant documentation of the
> development and approval process of the specification is archived and
> identified”.
>
>
>
> We’ll handle the spreadsheet bit. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
> *Silje*
>
>
>
> *From:* openEHR-technical [mailto:
> openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian McNicoll
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2016 11:37 AM
> *To:* For openEHR technical discussions
>
> *Subject:* Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR
>
>
>
> My first go now at CAMSS wiki page
> <https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/stds/CAMSS+Assessment+of+openEHR>
> ,
>
>
>
> There appears to be a major snafu with the CAMMS spreadsheet that
> auto-sets 'not applicable' to most of the rows if 'open specification' is
> set as the standard type. This makes some sense for a proprietary
> specification but none whatsoever for an open specification. @Silje - you
> may want to seek clarification from the CAMMS authors.
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> office +44 (0)1536 414994
> skype: ianmcnicoll
> email: i...@freshehr.com
> twitter: @ianmcnicoll
>
> Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org
>
> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd.
> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>
>
>
> On 5 January 2016 at 08:52, Bakke, Silje Ljosland <
> silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no> wrote:
>
> I’ve added the CAMSS assessment table to the page. Would appreciate any
> help in populating the pink cells. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
> *Silje*
>
>
>
> *From:* openEHR-technical [mailto:
> openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Beale
> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 4:08 PM
> *To:* openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org
> *Subject:* Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR
>
>
>
>
> I have set up a CAMSS wiki page
> <https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/stds/CAMSS+Assessment+of+openEHR>,
> Silje if you can copy the relevant CAMSS boilerplate in (assessment table
> etc) and make it look vaguely presentable (make child pages if you need)
> then I am sure the community can get it populated quickly for you, since
> it's clearly of general benefit.
>
> - thomas
>
> On 04/01/2016 14:24, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas, thanks for your reply!
>
>
>
> I don’t have any say in which assessment criteria are used, unfortunately.
> I’ve seen your criteria, and agree they’re more specifically applicable to
> e-health standards.
>
>
>
> I’ll probably need a lot of help answering and justifying the CAMSS
> questions, especially those regarding the governance of the specifications.
> I hope it’s okay if I pose specific questions to this list.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> *Silje*
>
>
>
> *From:* openEHR-technical [
> mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org
> <openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org>] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Beale
> *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 2:57 PM
> *To:* openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org
> *Subject:* Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR
>
>
>
>
> Hi Silje,
>
> I had a look at the website - it doesn't seem as if anyone is using CAMSS
> much, if we believe this page, which contains CAMSS assessments
> <https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/camss/og_page/camss-assessments>,
> none of which are health related. On this page
> <https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/camss/og_page/list-standards>there
> is a much larger list of 'recommended' standards which are all generic
> (PDF, GIF and so on) - I don't know what use this is.
>
> This page
> <https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/camss/wiki/camss-05-detailed-camss-criteria>has
> a long page of assessment criteria, which seem mostly reasonable to me, but
> are will probably miss what I would consider the most important criterion
> for value - longevity. I personally think longevity is ultimately based on
> semantic scalability (lack of other things will also kill it, like lack of
> community, implementations etc). See here
> <http://wolandscat.net/health-informatics/desiderata-for-successful-e-health-standards/>for
> my set of criteria.
>
> I also don't think that compatibility with other standards is necessarily
> a useful criterion - it depends on whether those other standards are in use
> and are themselves delivering value or just getting in the way.
>
> But overall the assessment tool seems OK. What I can't see is any example
> of where it has been applied to an e-health standard.
>
> - thomas
>
>
>
>
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