Pre-coordinated SNOMED codes are like classifications, in that they are used at 
the user level, the User Interface,
The Ontology behind SNOMED allows the pre-ordinated codes to be decomposed in 
its constituents.
These decomposed primitive codes can be used in structures like archetypes at 
the proper places.
In this way the pre-coorodinated SNOMED codes are iso-semantic.

But we keep the semantic differences codes expressed  using the SNOMED ontology 
and the Archetype and its codes.
Ontologies have the Open World Assumption. A pre-corodinated code like: 
No-Cancer means never there was, is or will be cancer. Ontologies describe 
reality.
In archetypes that use the Closed World Assumption Diagnosis=cancer, 
PresenceModifier=No means No Cancer found but perhaps they are. It just was not 
found. Presence of absence in a database are described.

Gerard   Freriks
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> On 31 Mar 2018, at 20:55, Diego Boscá <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What I was referencing was one way in which current systems (or more exactly, 
> their developers) could use codes already available in Snomed to create 
> subsets of their forms, regardless their input forms have precoordinated 
> options or use some kind of postcoordination mechanism. By defining these 
> subsets, you are making this form comparable with other similar forms (that 
> use other approaches to store similar information). It isn't about making 
> doctors in the same organization being able to have *new* ways of encoding 
> things, is about taking the forms they currently use and encode them in order 
> to be comparable with data in other organizations (and in principle, they 
> don't even need to be aware of this codification). With this, we can make 
> data have a meaning outside their original systems.
> 
> This is why I say that precoordination in snomed is a good thing. They are 
> terms that have been put in a form somewhere, and having them as is, and at 
> the same time having their undelying equivalent postcoordinated expression 
> helps in softening the boundary problem IMHO.
> I'm always up to go into the future inventing new cool things, but at least 
> in healthcare we are not allowed to lose data already available in current 
> systems.
> 

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