Hi Dileep,

I'll check the AQL against Ethercis ASAP - Chrisitian has done a lot
of work in this area recently.

The issue of how best to distinguish different nodes on the same path is an
old and long conversation. There are quite a few different requirements/
use-cases.

What I suggested is perfectly legitimate, the AQL for each path will be
different as you can use a qualified name predicate in the AQL but I agree
it would be helpful to be able to carry the slot meaning (optionally) in
the patient data not just in the design-time definition.

I know Thomas has talked about this in the past. It would need a somewhat
significant change to the RM, I think.

Ian






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On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 14:55, Dileep V S <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Ian/Silje,
>
> I will take a look at what Ian has suggested. But if Ethercis dos not
> support it, I will be back to square one. In that case would specializing
> the person_name and organisation archetypes for requester and receiver make
> sense?
>
> On further thought, I feel that what Ian has suggested is a work around
> and not part of the standard specs. Has there been any thoughts on a more
> elegant solution to be included in the standards? A more robust solution
> may be to include the slot id in the path and also in AQL so that same
> archetype in 2 different slots will have different paths. But then again
> this does not cover the situation where one slot is required to contain
> multiple instances of the same archetype.
>
> Silje,
> Thanks for the pointer to the new version of service request archetype.
> Will use that
>
> regards
>
> Dileep V S
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> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Bakke, Silje Ljosland <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As a side note, the “Service request” archetype has just (yesterday, in
>> fact) been published as INSTRUCTION.service_request.v1.
>>
>> Regards,
>> *Silje*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* openEHR-technical [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ian McNicoll
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2018 11:16 AM
>> *To:* For openEHR technical discussions <
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>> *Subject:* Re: Unique paths for nodes in multiple instances of one
>> archetype in the same OPT
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dileep,
>>
>>
>>
>> The usual approach I take here is to rename the clustered archetype to
>> reflect local use, which works out as
>>
>>
>>
>> [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.request.v1]
>>         [openEHR-EHR-INSTRUCTION.request.v0]
>>
>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0, 'Requesting organisation']
>>
>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>
>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0, ' Receiving organisation']
>>
>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>
>>
>>
>> and is queryable on AQL.
>>
>>
>>
>> see
>> https://github.com/RippleOSI/Ripple-openEHR/tree/master/docs/bindings/Current%20Ripple%20Headings/Referrals
>>
>> Note that the AQL described was not working correctly on Ethercis in the
>> past but that issue may have been fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> Dr Ian McNicoll
>> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
>> office +44 (0)1536 414994
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>>
>>
>>
>> Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation [email protected]
>>
>> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd.
>> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
>> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:07, Dileep V S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are trying to create a service request template using the following
>> structure
>>
>>
>>
>> [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.request.v1]
>>         [openEHR-EHR-INSTRUCTION.request.v0]
>>
>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0]
>>
>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>
>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0]
>>
>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>
>>
>>
>> The first set of organization & person name archetypes are for the
>> requester and the second set for the receiver.
>>
>>
>>
>> However in the template editor, the paths for the nodes of both these
>> instances are the same(Eg. Orgaization name, Identifier, unstructured name
>> etc). This, we feel, will create problems in the AQL as we cannot uniquely
>> identify the nodes. How do we solve this problem. Is there any better way
>> to model the template
>>
>>
>>
>> I m attaching the template file set for reference
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Dileep V S
>>
>> *Founder*
>>
>> *HealtheLife Ventures LLP*
>>
>> m:
>>
>> +91 9632888113
>>
>> a:
>>
>> 103, Innovation Centre, IIIT, Electronics City, Bangalore 560100
>>
>> w:
>>
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