Thanks Ian,

I will also test with Ethercis and update

regards

Dileep V S
*Founder*
HealtheLife Ventures LLP
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On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Ian McNicoll <i...@freshehr.com> wrote:

> Hi Dileep,
>
> I'll check the AQL against Ethercis ASAP - Chrisitian has done a lot
> of work in this area recently.
>
> The issue of how best to distinguish different nodes on the same path is
> an old and long conversation. There are quite a few different requirements/
> use-cases.
>
> What I suggested is perfectly legitimate, the AQL for each path will be
> different as you can use a qualified name predicate in the AQL but I agree
> it would be helpful to be able to carry the slot meaning (optionally) in
> the patient data not just in the design-time definition.
>
> I know Thomas has talked about this in the past. It would need a somewhat
> significant change to the RM, I think.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 14:55, Dileep V S <dil...@healthelife.in> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ian/Silje,
>>
>> I will take a look at what Ian has suggested. But if Ethercis dos not
>> support it, I will be back to square one. In that case would specializing
>> the person_name and organisation archetypes for requester and receiver make
>> sense?
>>
>> On further thought, I feel that what Ian has suggested is a work around
>> and not part of the standard specs. Has there been any thoughts on a more
>> elegant solution to be included in the standards? A more robust solution
>> may be to include the slot id in the path and also in AQL so that same
>> archetype in 2 different slots will have different paths. But then again
>> this does not cover the situation where one slot is required to contain
>> multiple instances of the same archetype.
>>
>> Silje,
>> Thanks for the pointer to the new version of service request archetype.
>> Will use that
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Dileep V S
>> *Founder*
>> HealtheLife Ventures LLP
>> m: +91 9632888113
>> a: 103, Innovation Centre, IIIT, Electronics City, Bangalore 560100
>> w: healthelife.in  e: dil...@healthelife.in
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Bakke, Silje Ljosland <
>> silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no> wrote:
>>
>>> As a side note, the “Service request” archetype has just (yesterday, in
>>> fact) been published as INSTRUCTION.service_request.v1.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> *Silje*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-
>>> boun...@lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian McNicoll
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2018 11:16 AM
>>> *To:* For openEHR technical discussions <openehr-technical@lists.
>>> openehr.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Unique paths for nodes in multiple instances of one
>>> archetype in the same OPT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Dileep,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The usual approach I take here is to rename the clustered archetype to
>>> reflect local use, which works out as
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.request.v1]
>>>         [openEHR-EHR-INSTRUCTION.request.v0]
>>>
>>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0, 'Requesting organisation']
>>>
>>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>>
>>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0, ' Receiving organisation']
>>>
>>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and is queryable on AQL.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> see https://github.com/RippleOSI/Ripple-openEHR/tree/
>>> master/docs/bindings/Current%20Ripple%20Headings/Referrals
>>>
>>> Note that the AQL described was not working correctly on Ethercis in the
>>> past but that issue may have been fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Ian McNicoll
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>>> office +44 (0)1536 414994
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org
>>>
>>> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd.
>>> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
>>> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:07, Dileep V S <dil...@healthelife.in> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are trying to create a service request template using the following
>>> structure
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.request.v1]
>>>         [openEHR-EHR-INSTRUCTION.request.v0]
>>>
>>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0]
>>>
>>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>>
>>> [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v0]
>>>
>>>     [openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The first set of organization & person name archetypes are for the
>>> requester and the second set for the receiver.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However in the template editor, the paths for the nodes of both these
>>> instances are the same(Eg. Orgaization name, Identifier, unstructured name
>>> etc). This, we feel, will create problems in the AQL as we cannot uniquely
>>> identify the nodes. How do we solve this problem. Is there any better way
>>> to model the template
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I m attaching the template file set for reference
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dileep V S
>>>
>>> *Founder*
>>>
>>> *HealtheLife Ventures LLP*
>>>
>>> m:
>>>
>>> +91 9632888113
>>>
>>> a:
>>>
>>> 103, Innovation Centre, IIIT, Electronics City, Bangalore 560100
>>>
>>> w:
>>>
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