That is very helpful. I think too that it will be beneficial for OpenEhr. I will send you requirements within two weeks, and then we see where we go from there,
Thanks very much for helping Bert Op do 25 okt. 2018 09:08 schreef Heather Leslie < [email protected]>: > I like the idea of some of the archetypes being compared to good wines 😊 > > > > Another alternative is to submit the requirements you have identified, > maybe best by email to me, and we can see how we might best be able to > support you. It might not be a rapid turn around, though. I think getting > these archetypes into good shape would be useful to many app developers. > > > > Would that be helpful to you? > > > > Cheers > > > > Heather > > > > *From:* openEHR-technical <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Bert Verhees > *Sent:* Thursday, 25 October 2018 5:24 PM > *To:* For openEHR technical discussions < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum > > > > Thanks for your advice, Heather. To be honest about this. The problem is > that I did not study medical informatics, and I am not sure that archetypes > I write will be regarded as good enough to stand in the showcase. I was > hoping to get some interested to help with that, and then someone who is > regarded as knowledgeable to get them in the place and keep them there. > Because if that fails the work has been done in vain. And I have a busy > life. > > > > But that plan failed. So now plan B. I have found decent datamodels to > register different kind of sportactivities, and the archetypes you list > will certainly help. So maybe I give it a try and people will after reading > this, judge my work mildly. > > > > So thanks again, after my holiday (tomorrow I go), I will give it a try. I > have already written quite a few archetypes, of reasonable quality, but of > course not as matured as the good wines from CKM. > > > > best regards > > Bert > > Op do 25 okt. 2018 07:26 schreef Heather Leslie < > [email protected]>: > > Hi Bert, > > > > The only way archetypes get included in CKM is that someone builds them > and offers them for sharing. And scope for all archetypes includes your use > case of consumer entered data, where it is appropriate. So if something you > need is not there please work actively with us to improve the situation. > > > > I suggest that you propose candidate archetypes to CKM where they don’t > exist or make change requests to existing ones where they need improvement. > > > > Consider: > > - Lifestyle factors - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1648 > - Story/History - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.68. > Named ‘story’ precisely to be inclusive of consumer entered data. > - Goal - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.124 > - Physical activity summary - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2877 > - Tobacco smoking summary - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2466 > - Smokeless tobacco summary - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2817 > - Tobacco use - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1629 > – needs to be internalised from the old NEHTA CKM and updated with more > recent patterns > - Alcohol consumption summary - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1521 > - Alcohol intake https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216 > – also needs to be updated with more recent patterns > - Substance use – https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.146 > - needs an update based on further requirements and finalisation of other > OBS patters for tobacco and alcohol > - Food item - https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1922 > - Dietary nutrients - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2745. > - Micronutrients - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.2744 > - Fetal movement - > https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.216 > > And all the others that are applicable across all domains… > > - Story > - Body weight > - Height > - Waist circumference > - BMI > - Vital signs – Blood pressure, pulse, temperature > - Family History > - Problems > - Adverse reactions > - Menstrual cycle > > > > They may not be ready for use out of the box for your purpose or published > or covering all potential concepts, but there are a considerable number > that are applicable for use by consumers and are not a bad starting point. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Heather > > > > *From:* openEHR-technical <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Bert Verhees > *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 October 2018 6:10 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum > > > > > I miss lifestyle and sport-services which are not explicitly problem > related. Maybe others have other suggestions, but I like to focus on these. > I think that is the near future, and not already planning them in will be a > missed chance. The meaning of the term Healthcare will change to its true > meaning. Care related to Health, not only illness. Lifestyle data will be > important, already now insurance companies are registering if customers > smoke or do sport, and which sport. Some people write down everything they > eat. > > People use their smartphone to communicate and exchange information. > Interestingly, an increasing number of people collect health data on their > smartphone such as information about their mood, activity level, nutrition > or vital signs including blood pressure or blood glucose levels. Medical > research could greatly benefit from these ‘real life’ data. I think OpenEhr > must be prepared for this to come, give it room, embrace it. > > The same counts for archetypes, there are no archetypes on CKM which are > fit to register these kind of things. > > I had this discussion already a few times on OpenEhr mailinglists, I only > got laughters as reply, that is why I hesitate to discuss it here, but with > this, I give it one more chance, just for fun, not expecting any serious > result. > > > > On 23-10-18 16:58, Thomas Beale wrote: > > > Every so often I get bored of what I am doing and start trying to draw one > of those 'services roadmap' kind of diagrams. These often pretty pictures > appear in slide presentations, in standards, whitepapers etc, but are not > often used as a tool to help map out the road ahead. We do however need > some sort of vision of the future for staking out new services. I like my > latest version enough that I thought it would be worth putting up publicly > to get reactions and input. > > Please comment and/or add content to the wiki page > <https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/spec/pages/357957633/Services+Landscape+for+e-Health> > . > > > > - thomas > > > _______________________________________________ > > openEHR-technical mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > > > > -- > *Bert Verhees* > Software developer, architect > > Profile: https://www.bertverhees.nl/ > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/VerheesBert > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bertverhees/ > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +31 06 28050294 > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org >
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