FYI See example JSON based //openEHR <--> FHIR mapping template //for
Allergy content attached and more here
https://github.com/RippleOSI/Ripple-FHIR/tree/master/FHIR-Ripple_Mapping/examples/templates

This approach has also been designed with npm in mind for easy distribution
and usage, as per video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaGGGgJdWvM&list=PLNxHSK29ViKLrrhdPTqbYr6XGTya4uGBv&index=9

regards

Tony


On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 02:05, Pablo Pazos <[email protected]> wrote:

> A library of mappings sounds like a great idea, another type of artifact
> for the CKM maybe?
>
> I believe the LinkEHR mapper has the ability of constructing such mappings
> in a processable format that can be shared. Diego? :)
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:04 PM Heath Frankel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Although I will add, and I think someone has already suggested this, at
>> least we only have to do this mapping once for each FHIR resource. So as a
>> openEHR/FHIR community we should aim for a set of templates, as Thomas
>> indicated, a set of FHIR extensions, and a library of mappings and
>> transforms.
>> Sounds like LinkEHR has some capacity to do the mappings but from a
>> community asset perspective we need a Implementation independent technology
>> for the transform. Back in my day of doing HL7 v2 or CDA mappings, this was
>> done using XSLT. I think someone mentioned a JSON equivalent? I still think
>> XSLT would be a good common denominator although perhaps seen as ancient.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Heath
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Heath Frankel
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:23:31 AM
>> *To:* For openEHR technical discussions
>> *Subject:* Re: openEHR on FHIR and vice versa
>>
>> Thanks Pablo,
>> I second that.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Heath
>> _____________________________
>> From: Pablo Pazos <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:36 am
>> Subject: Re: openEHR on FHIR and vice versa
>> To: For openEHR technical discussions <
>> [email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Yes, in fact the closest we can get to automatic transformations is just
>> defining the mappings between openEHR classes and the correspondent FHIR
>> resources, and feed that to a system that, for a specific openEHR instance,
>> provides a mapper user with constrained options of FHIR resources to choose
>> from, and vice-versa, given a FHIR resource, provide the options of openEHR
>> classes to map to. Then will end up mapping fields of correspondent types.
>> No magic here for now :(
>>
>> But I believe this process can be more intelligent, if we add extra
>> metadata to the definitions (like SNOMED CT annotations with concept ids
>> and expressions), and we have a lot of instance samples where AI algorithms
>> can run on and detect semantic matches. Still, a human needs to do some
>> manual work, but maybe less with the extra help of metadata+AI.
>>
>> Thinking of 100% automatic generic transformations between any instance
>> of two different information models is currently just science fiction IMHO
>> :), or for a political correct answer: it is an open problem.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:58 AM Ian McNicoll <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree Pablo and we have to remember that the number of high-quality,
>>> truly interoperable FHIR profiles is going to be very small for a long
>>> time.
>>>
>>> @Dileep V S <[email protected]> - we have started to put FHIR
>>> bindings in CKM archetypes but in practice, the FHIR-openEHR mappings will
>>> between local FHIR profiles
>>>  and local templates - see
>>> https://github.com/inidus/openehr-care-connect-adaptor
>>>
>>> There are various attempts at automation including the Ripple QEWD
>>> Jumper work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaGGGgJdWvM but it will
>>> still need quite a lot of manual input.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> Dr Ian McNicoll
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>>>
>>>
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>>> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd.
>>> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
>>> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 18:26, Pablo Pazos <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also did some mapping work FHIR -> openEHR using Mirth, but this is
>>>> ad-hoc, no automatic mapping yet, for that you need to define a lot of
>>>> constraints to make it work automatically. Maybe some semi-automatic tool
>>>> come out in the future, assisting architects on doing such mappings, either
>>>> way some kind of human intervention will be needed to define mapping
>>>> criteria when there are  1 to * mapping possibilities.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:01 AM Jan-Marc Verlinden <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are doing something similar at the moment. but instead of doing
>>>>> this inside the archetype we are considering the use of an external 
>>>>> mapping
>>>>> tool like Mirth Connect or OpenHIM. But we are not there yet.. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan-Marc Verlinden
>>>>> www.medrecord.io
>>>>> www.medsafe.io
>>>>> 0653785650
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Op vr 14 dec. 2018 om 11:49 schreef Diego Boscá <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Georg,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main result of that paper was supporting FHIR as a reference
>>>>>> model to define archetypes (you can do that with no limitations on the
>>>>>> currently available tool). There is no openEHR archetype <-> FHIR profile
>>>>>> service yet, although I believe that providing a openEHR -> FHIR 
>>>>>> generical
>>>>>> transformation could be feasible.
>>>>>> Most of the results of this work are available as import/export
>>>>>> functions in LinkEHR: Importing StructureDefinitions should work for most
>>>>>> things (in fact, I have been updating this part recently and will have
>>>>>> better support for STU3 in next LinkEHR version we publish). The export
>>>>>> feature is in the original DSTU format though, I assume we should go
>>>>>> further and generate StructureDefinitions as in STU3. For the
>>>>>> transformation of data instances, as I said we use archetypes as way to
>>>>>> express FHIR profiles and resources, so transforming between them is no
>>>>>> more difficult than transforming between openEHR, CDA, ISO13606, ODM, 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> which you can do with the LinkEHR studio (FYI, the LinkEHR Studio version
>>>>>> available on the website allows you to test this mapping/transformation
>>>>>> part, the only thing you won't be able to do is to export the output 
>>>>>> XQuery
>>>>>> transformation)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El vie., 14 dic. 2018 a las 11:19, Georg Fette (<
>>>>>> [email protected]>) escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I have just read the paper "Combining Archetypes with Fast Health
>>>>>>> Interoperability Resources in Future-proof Health Information
>>>>>>> Systems",
>>>>>>> in which the representation of openEHR archetypes as FHIR profiles
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> presented. As I am also trying to use this approach and I wonder if
>>>>>>> there are working and publicly available applications (possibly
>>>>>>> emerged
>>>>>>> from the above mentioned research) that use that approach ? I am
>>>>>>> especially interested in:
>>>>>>> - transforming openEHR archetypes into FHIR profiles
>>>>>>> (StructureDefinitions) and storing them in a FHIR server.
>>>>>>> - transforming FHIR profiles into openEHR archetypes and storing
>>>>>>> them in
>>>>>>> an openEHR server.
>>>>>>> - transforming openEHR archetype instances into FHIR resources
>>>>>>> (Bundles)
>>>>>>> and storing them in a FHIR server.
>>>>>>> - transforming FHIR resources into openEHR instances and storing
>>>>>>> them in
>>>>>>> an openEHR server.
>>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>>> Georg
>>>>>>>
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