On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 4:02 AM Alexander Kanavin <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 21:04, Michael Opdenacker via > lists.openembedded.org > <[email protected]> wrote: > > - Beginner use case: begin by fetching a binary image, ready to boot on a > > target machine. Extend the system by installing extra applications > > through > > package feeds. > > > > - Intermediate use case: tweak and rebuild existing packages, compile new > > applications and modify images by using an eSDK and other binary > > artifacts. > > > > - Advanced use case: completely reorganize and optimize the system for a > > specific target, switching to building from source > > I would actually suggest that the esdk is skipped altogether: it > provides a restricted, locked down environment without access to > bitbake or possibility to modify the build. It's not a 'real yocto'. >
The intent was to stay in between the binaries and full yocto, in particular not having to directly jump to bitbake interactions. It's the gradual onramp that we were looking for. > Rather, let's give the users the possibility to go directly to the > full yocto build that was used to produce the binary images. To that > end, I've proposed a prototype for making 'build bundles': > https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe-core/patch/[email protected]/ > > It would need a corresponding user-facing piece, e.g. oe-setup that > would take and unpack and setup the bundle from the server, ensuring > it does match the binary image. Agreed that your proposal and bundles are something that we'd want to embrace with this effort, once they are merged and agreed upon. In particular since devtool is definitely there for a similar interface as the eSDK is providing (and what we were looking for). Preferable at that point, the eSDK as it exists is replaced and the decision is simple. Bruce > > Alex > > > -- - Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee at its end - "Use the force Harry" - Gandalf, Star Trek II
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