Well, apart from feeling i might be a bit crazy for seeing this situation in 
the way i see it :)  i do think it's worth thinking about aspects of it that 
are 'out there' (Victor's words), because chances are they may be the mundane 
of tomorrow.

IMO at the moment we are still seeing the 'distribution' of Libre fonts in 
similar modes to modes we are used to seeing proprietary fonts distributed by; 
canonical, centralised, and ultimately controlled from a 'top down' approach. 
The 'top' being the designer, or publisher, or foundry. Proprietary fonts have 
to go these routes for obvious reasons. Libre fonts do not have to at all, 
their free-ness makes them inherently viral objects, if you want them to be. I 
suspect that more viral approaches to distribution may emerge, because they are 
becoming possible and practical. For example, the situation of 'pulling' fonts 
out of the browser cache; that action is a legacy from the slightly fudgy 
situation where the type industry wanted the web market, but didn't want to 
give fonts away. As a designer of free fonts, i'm stuck with that fudge, 
despite the fact that the technology actually presents a much more direct way 
to distribute fonts to users. E.g. instead of users having to jump hurdles to 
get a fairly useless WOFF file of my fonts,  i would want that a user could a 
Free font used on any webpage and be able to 1-click to download that font 
(intact) and so be able to then use it for web, print, whatever. IMO that's how 
free fonts could be utilised and distributed. It's pretty much exactly what 
Nathan describes. Select text, right click… "save font as…"  :) Perhaps some 
browser developers would be interested in this?

The idea that was floated a few years back of a 'permissions table' for 
(proprietary) webfonts, has allways interested me. It's maybe a shame it was 
never adopted, as it's a neat idea for how a font can carry all the information 
it needs to denote it's 'freedom' (or lack of it). Another aspect that may 
effect webfonts is the 'web DRM'  standards that are on the table with the W3C. 
It would be interesting if font file formats developed to carry 'freedom' 
information in a DRM protected web.

-vernon



On 6 Jun 2013, at 11:01, Nathan Willis <nwil...@glyphography.com> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Vernon Adams <v...@newtypography.co.uk> wrote:
> Yep.
> 
> I'll use Coda served from Adobe's Edge webfonts service as my example, from
> https://edgewebfonts.adobe.com/fonts#/?nameFilter=coda&collection=coda
> 
> So from e.g. that page, i can obtain the Coda fonts by using the Developer 
> tools of my web broswer. Not sure if this works for all browsers, but i'm 
> using Chrome so it does…
> 
> The page's  Resources are exposed in the Developer tools and i can see the 
> url of the Coda Regular font, it is;
> data:font/opentype;base64,<i've cut the sqillions of lines of base64 
> encodingt>
> 
> That link kicks Chrome into downloading a single file called 'download' to my 
> local machine.
> I then add the file extension '.woff' to that file, to create 
> 'download.woff'. It's a base64 encoded woff font file.
> 
> I can then use this font file, or… i guess i can use it?… can i share it? 
> What should i call it? can i use it on my own server within a css @font-face 
> rule?
> I would like to print with it too… but it's a WOFF file, so more practical if 
> i convert it… can i convert it into an opentype (OTF) file format? and print 
> with it? Can i share that OTF? What can i call it?
> 
> It sounds like what you're fundamentally interested in here is a browser 
> feature; akin to the manner in which (most?) browsers offer a  "View Image" / 
> "Copy Image Location" / "Save Image As" option in the right-click menu.  
> Obviously they don't *have* to do that; that's their choice.  And I can see 
> how it would be extremely helpful if you visit a page and notice something 
> interesting about the fonts -- particularly if you like one but think you 
> might want to modify it.  That's a lot more steps than is required to save 
> and edit an image file, and image files are subject to just as much creator 
> copyright protection as fonts.
> 
> I'm not sure how much could be done in the font *file* itself to simplify 
> that situation if the browser exposes no convenient options to the user, 
> though.  You can already provide URLs to the user in metadata; it's just not 
> accessible, right?
> 
> So I guess I'm asking whether the answer isn't to open feature requests in 
> Firefox & Chromium?
> 
> Nate
> 
> 
> -- 
> nathan.p.willis
> nwil...@glyphography.com
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