Will Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Will,
You are right! The flawed process was an attempt to get the OSHCA formally retgisterd, start a web site and get going. Endless changes and debate are not going to do this.
Therefore, with this somewhat awkward, even ridiculous process, we become a formally registered organization.
The alternative?
Endless debates as to where to register, endless changees to the constitution, exasperating changes of the formalization, dates to have meetings, ways to have the meeting.
Molly gives up.
No formalization. Nobody to take over the formalization and registration.
OSHCA remains what it is. A tiny, very tiny email forum with about 5-7 regular mailers and several lurkers.
I give up.
OSHCA is all yours! Take it, keep it, own it, mail each other and keep each other happy.
Nandalal
nandalal,
from the perspective of a simple discussion at a face to face
meeting, this is what is happening:
"we have a motion and a second to approve the 1.0 draft of the
constitution. is there any further discussion?"
as a responsible member of the community i first evaluate whether or
not it makes sense to initiate further discussion. deciding that it
makes sense to raise the objection, i ask for the floor and state my
concern so that my concern is noted as part of the process, even if i
have every confidence that the motion will pass over my further
discussion.
then, the chair receives a motion to close the discussion, which is
seconded and passed.
does this "disrupt the process" or is it a legitimate part of the
process? you decide.
[wr]
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On Apr 25, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote:
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> Fred Trotter wrote:
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> Fred,
>
> There was enough time given for dissent/discussion. Molly asked
> everyone repeatedly to comment on the issues. We can't wait for
> ever, therefore a time limit was set, and the FINAL draft was set
> down. Therfore there was really nothing to disagree about!
>
> Perhaps, Molly should have removed the disagree part and just left
> everyone to approve.
>
> Will sent his comments once everything was done and over with.
> Where was he all that time? His late comments would only disrupt a
> process set in motion in a very democratic manner.
>
> If you cannot understand this situation, by all means wait in the
> sidelines and join when you are happy to do so. Nobody will stop
> you. See the democracy at work ?
> :-)
>
> Hope to see you back soon, dissenting and arguing!
>
> Nandalal
> OSCHA committee,
> It is a little troublesome that Will's membership is being
> discarded along with his comments. Essentially the arguments of the
> committee is "lets get it working and then worry about getting it
> right".
> This is fine but I, at least, will have to wait to see it working
> right
> before I can toss my hat in the ring. This is not so much a
> criticism,
> perhaps the committee has the right idea! But until there is an
> entity that
> merits trust (which means having a forum for dissenting
> supporters) then I
> will have to stay on the sidelines with (apparently) Will.
>
> --
> Fred Trotter
> SynSeer, Consultant
> http://www.fredtrotter.com
> http://www.synseer.com
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