Actually we have bike sheded on names in the past. Though I don't think people were that concerned about Artifact Binding becoming a marketing name at the time.
If accepting Mike's name proposal gets us through the specs council, then I am ok with it. Yes Nat's calculation was off due to the resubmission. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-07-17, at 4:51 PM, Mike Jones <michael.jo...@microsoft.com> wrote: > I don’t believe the acronym NSSA – for Native Single Authorization Agent is > taken in computer science contexts (the National Scholastic Surfing > Association notwithstanding). > > I agree with John that the “single” is important and agree with Tony that > “single” doesn’t qualify “sign-on” in this case. > > Can we go with the name Native Single Authorization Agent and the mailing > list name openid-specs-nssa and call it good? > > -- Mike > > From: Broberg, Jeffrey C [mailto:jeffrey.brob...@ca.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:27 PM > To: Mike Jones; John Bradley > Cc: sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig; Don Thibeau > Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > Tony, > > SAA -> IBM Systems Application Architecture which is from the prehistoric days > > jeff > > From: Mike Jones <michael.jo...@microsoft.com> > Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:22 PM > To: John Bradley <jbrad...@pingidentity.com> > Cc: "sp...@openid.net" <sp...@openid.net>, John Ehrig > <jeh...@inventures.com>, Don Thibeau <d...@oidf.org> > Subject: RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > That would work for me. I do believe (as specs council member) that getting > a name for the working group that people believe is accurate and reflective > of what the work is intended to accomplish is important. > > -- Mike > > From: John Bradley [mailto:jbrad...@pingidentity.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:20 PM > To: Mike Jones > Cc: Anthony Nadalin; Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau; sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig > Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > In as much as people believe they are signing on to native applications I > think that openid-specs-native-sso is a fine name. > > On the other hand technically we are using a single > authentication/authorization event to authorize an agent to authorize further > apps. > > So we could invent a new acronym for Single Authorization Agent (SAA) to > get around the objection to signon. > > openid-specs-native-saa > > I think the single is important. > > John B. > > John Bradley | Sr. Technical Architect > Ping Identity | www.pingidentity.com > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - > O: +1 720.306.6055 M: +1 (303) 396-9546 > Email: jbrad...@pingidentity.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Join me at Cloud Identity Summit > www.cloudidentitysummit.com > Twitter: @CloudIDSummit > Facebook.com/CloudIdentitySummit > Connect with me > Twitter: @ve7jtb > LinkedIn.com/in/v7jtb > > > On 2013-07-17, at 3:07 PM, Mike Jones <michael.jo...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > So you’d prefer that the work be called something closer to “Native > Application Authorization”? > > From: Anthony Nadalin > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM > To: Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau > Cc: Mike Jones; John Bradley; sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig > Subject: RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > I would have been too young back in the 90s > > I don’t like SSO in the name as this is basically this is just a way to > authorize an app to interact with one or more resource serves on your behalf > > From: Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmad...@rogers.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:39 AM > To: Don Thibeau > Cc: Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones; John Bradley; sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig > Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > I am 99% confident that *our* beloved Tony was not part of the R&B group from > Oakland, briefly popular in the 90s..... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9! > > On 7/17/13 2:33 PM, Don Thibeau wrote: > Paul > > I don't think "Tony Tony Tony" is a good name for a working group :) > > Don Thibeau > The OpenID Foundation > > > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Paul Madsen wrote: > > > Tony Tony Tony, how I've missed our time together > > The WG's mandate is to profile OIDC to enable an SSO model for native mobile > applications. > > Can you suggest a better (concise & memorable) descriptor for a mail list > identifier? > > paul > > On 7/17/13 2:17 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote: > That’s a totally useless name > > From: openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net > [mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM > To: Mike Jones > Cc: John Bradley; sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig; Don Thibeau > Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > that list name is fine > > thanks > > On 7/17/13 1:51 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > John, are you able to create the new mailing list at lists.openid.net or do > we have to asksupp...@osuosl.org for the list creation? > > Paul and other WG creators, what name do you want the list to have? > openid-specs-native-sso? > > -- Mike > > From: Don Thibeau [mailto:d...@oidf.org] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:03 AM > To: Paul Madsen > Cc: n-sakimura; John Ehrig; openid-specs@lists.openid.net; John Bradley; Mike > Jones > Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > John Ehrig can set up the web site space and the online Docusign process for > IPR collection. If done right away it saves all concerned lots of time and > hassle. > > > Don Thibeau > The OpenID Foundation > > > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Paul Madsen wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Nat, > > Don, can you direct me to whomever I should work with on the WG list & page > logistics? > > Paul > > On 7/16/13 6:08 AM, n-sakimura wrote: > The WG formation is deemed to be approved per section 4.2 of the OpenID > Process Document v.1.5 of 2009. > > A new mailing list should be established promptly per section 4.3 of the > above document. Also, a WG web pages should be set up at openid.net. You > should also ask the secretary of the foundation to announce the first meeting > of the WG, in which scope approval and the chairs selection should be done. > > Note: the first meeting can only be done after the WG has collected the IPR > agreement from the participants, so it may not be as quick as you may wish, > but it has to be done. BTW, NRI's agreement is already in as we have a > blanket agreement like Google. > > Nat > > (2013/07/15 14:56), Paul Madsen wrote: > > > > > > Next steps? > > ----------- > Paul Madsen > Ping Identity > > Anthony Nadalin<tony...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I believe if you dig you will see that there is potential for IPR from both > Apple and Facebook. > > -----Original Message----- > From: openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net > [mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of n-sakimura > Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:20 PM > To: openid-specs@lists.openid.net > Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group > > Could you kindly spell it out? > > From what I have been hearing, Facebook was just using fast application > switch, which is nothing more than Self-issued thing that we have, and iOS's > native login support given to facebook, twitter, and Weibo. > Perhaps you are thinking of something else. > > Of course, I could be complete wrong. I should probably read > https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/ > and > > http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233 > > > as well. > > Having said that, if Apple's interface is not open, perhaps it is a task for > an industry consortia like OpenID Foundation to go and ask Apple to open up > the API for other IdPs as well. Do not know if they are going to listen, but > still, it might be our duty to try. > > Nat > > (2013/07/04 7:30), Anthony Nadalin wrote: > > > > > > I also have a concern that we might be infringing on the Facebook SSO > (iOS) IPR with this effort. > > > > > -- > Nat Sakimura (n-sakim...@nri.co.jp) > Nomura Research Institute, Ltd. > Tel:+81-3-6274-1412 Fax:+81-3-6274-1547 > > PLEASE READ: > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for the > named recipient(s) only. > If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified > that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this message > is strictly prohibited. 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