As frustrating as it is, the fact is that today Oracle has no announced plans 
to release any official JVM for Android and iOS. That being the case, the 
biggest hurdle to getting FX on iOS and Android is the VM. On the iOS side 
there has been some success with RoboVM. On Android you can just use Dalvik if 
you back port to Java 6, or you have to find another VM (XMLVM maybe?? Anybody 
convince Excelsior to support Android?) that can do the job.

There are two parts the problem of a "VM". One is the VM technology itself, 
which is probably the lesser of the two issues because there are a handful of 
decent VMs around (if you include Dalvik, you've already got one on Android). 
The second problem are the class libraries. Generally JavaFX doesn't rely on 
too much from JavaSE beyond what is in the "base" module; threading and 
collections and concurrency and so forth. However we are using the diamond 
operator and in a few places we might use multi-catch (although I don't know of 
such places myself) and definitely we use default methods in interfaces in one 
location (ObservableList). Generally we've tried to make it easy to back port 
to 7, but haven't tried to keep 6 up to date. I would be very interested in the 
list of code changes Matthias had to make to better understand the situation.

As far as fonts (from Matthias' email) I believe the Android port currently 
uses T2K but Felipe and Tomas were talking about using the new Font support 
which would delegate directly to Android APIs. This might be one area that 
Matthias' and Felipe and Tomas can work closely on to get a contribution to 
make this happen!

> How much time do you think it would take community designers to develop this?

RoboVM for iOS I think is basically at this stage, where they've got something 
up and running to the point of being able to do performance analysis and 
looking for bugs. It has been a several month process with stops and starts. 
Tom and the others working on RoboVM might be able to give a better estimate.

> Does it support swing and javafx or just javafx like the Pi port? What parts 
> of java8 don't work on your standalone VM?

I couldn't tell you what does / doesn't work on the standalone VM as that would 
break all kinds of confidential legal mumbo-jumbo. But I can tell you I've 
never seen a port of AWT to iOS or Android.

Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomas Brandalik <tomas.branda...@oracle.com>
> Sender: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net
> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:52:06 
> To: <openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net>
> Subject: Re: JAVAFX on ANDROID
> 
> COMPILE_TARGETS=android
> Good, then use FX78 and you can give it a try. I have my local fork of 
> javafx for testing DalvikLauncher. Standalone Vm for Android is not 
> available for download.
> 
> -Tomas
> 
>> FX78 should be compatible with Java6 because RoboVM is built on dalvik
>> classlib and JavaFX works there!
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> On 10.10.13 22:42, Tobi wrote:
>>> Hi Tomas,
>>> 
>>> How did you test the Dalviklauncher? Do you have a Java6 compatible jFX 
>>> version?
>>> 
>>> And how did you test the JavaSELauncher? Do you have a JVM for android? 
>>> Where can we download it?
>>> 
>>>> Am 10.10.2013 um 22:01 schrieb Tomas Brandalik<tomas.branda...@oracle.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tobi and Philippe,
>>>> Android port is being developed in open source so all developers can see 
>>>> every progress. There is nothing to hide. You can understand it as an 
>>>> example of porting javafx runtime to a linux based platform not a product 
>>>> with a roadmap.
>>>> As you've noticed there are 2 launchers DalvikLauncher and JavaSELauncher. 
>>>> Have a look at DalvikLauncher it is quite simple how it launches an 
>>>> application. What you need to try it out is an java6 (dalvik vm 
>>>> limitation)  compatible javafx fork.
>>>> On the other hand JavaSELauncher uses standalone vm which is not part of 
>>>> the port. It expects that the vm is packaged with an apk. The launcher 
>>>> unpacks vm, installs it, setup classpath, main class debug port etc (all 
>>>> specified in manifest) and launches it . These are the 2 options which can 
>>>> be further extended by the community.
>>>> 
>>>> best regards
>>>> -Tomas
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/10/2013 06:10 PM, Tobias Bley wrote:
>>>>> Tomas from Oracle is working on the Android port of JavaFX. He has 
>>>>> developed a DalvikLauncher and a JavaSELauncher. So he is able to tell 
>>>>> you (and me :)) more about that important theme „JavaFX on Android“.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Tobi
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 10.10.2013 um 16:55 schrieb Philippe 
>>>>>> TIFFEAU<philippe.tiff...@steria.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Someone can make a clear answer about JavaFX on ANDROID ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it works how to use ? Otherwise the roadmap is ....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Regard.
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