Hi I would like to know why people don't consider Yate to be an
alternative platform to develop on. OpenPBX I can understand because
of political reasons, but why reinvent the wheel if there is an
application already out there which has a clean design, why not build
all the good features of Freeswitch into Yate and save the man years?

Shidan

On 1/24/06, Daniel Swarbrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rico -mc- Gloeckner wrote:
> > Motivation is brought by Goals, aims, guidelines (not rules), etc.
> > "Being better than asterisk" is not what i mean, though.  It requires
> > some "Where do we want to go" (for example architecture wise), it doesnt
> > make sense to develop just to get the code all thrown over a hill
> > because it doesnt fit any future architecture.
>
> Architecture-wise, I think we all agree that the Asterisk core is a pig.
> Somehow, it manages to run some fairly big sites, but I'm sure we are
> all familiar with (and tired of) random segfaults and other bizarre
> crap. The Asterisk core is incredibly fragile - it's a wonder any of us
> PBX admins get any sleep at night.
>
> OpenPBX always had an alternative plan to replace the core, and I think
> Freeswitch could be the solution to that. What would be great, is if the
> current OpenPBX dev team stuck together long enough for Freeswitch to
> offer a viable platform, around which we could develop Asterisk-like
> features (excluding the crashing, thanks).
>
> > FWIW, asterisk made some improvements since the fork, but until now i
> > still find it a big mess.
>
> This is true - I looked at Asterisk trunk yesterday, and thought to
> myself how familiar some of their new stuff is. More cross-platform
> coding, replacement of db1 with sqlite etc. Maybe OpenPBX was a bit of a
> kick in the pants for Asterisk... ;-)
>
> > Also, its nice that anthm(?) started freeswitch and obviously some
> > people are rather moving there, but i felt lost when i first heard of
> > freeswitch and iam having thoughts wether freeswitch will make some of
> > asterisk's mistakes again.
>
> I'm nowhere near the level of coder that Anthony is, but from looking at
> his code and API documentation, I have to say I like it. It looks clean,
> well-designed, and stable. Not like the inter-dependency hell that
> Asterisk's core is.
>
> > I guess it would be helpful if the commiters to openpbx-svn would say
> > something about where they want to go and what they want to do, so that
> > the rest of commiters knows where everyone is standing.
>
> For me personally, I feel like OpenPBX (in its current state) may have
> already come to the end of its usefulness. I am trying to fix a bug that
> is affecting two production PBX's I run, where it randomly crashes at a
> CAPI call hangup. This may already be fixed in Asterisk. Even if I find
> the bug in OpenPBX and fix it, how many other bugs are lurking that are
> going to stick their head up in a few weeks? The commercial reality is
> that I need to run with code that is being actively maintained (by more
> people than just myself). Ok, Asterisk is a big yucky mess of code, but
> it has a lot of users, and hence a lot of momentum. I reported a bug in
> Asterisk's Postgres CDR module yesterday (one that I had known about for
> a long time) and was shocked (and pleasantly surprised) when OEJ patched
> it within an hour or two of me reporting it.
>
> My official job role in my company is not to maintain open source
> projects - the give me a bit of leeway since we are developing solutions
> around OpenPBX, but I'm really supposed to be doing other things. At the
> end of the day, we need to know that the software around which our
> solutions are based is stable, actively maintained, and not heading down
> a dead-end. For that reason, I am considering moving back to Asterisk as
> an interim solution, while Freeswitch comes up to speed.
>
> OpenPBX is great - but I just think it was too little, too late. I'd
> love to see an OpenPBX v2.0, based around Freeswitch - I'll definitely
> lend my time to helping out with that.
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