I think that this thread has taken the wrong direction.

GIT/SVN/CVS is not the main subject in this thread, imho.

There are more important proposals here to discuss and no one has yet 
commented them.


Marc Olivier Chouinard wrote:
> Im proposing some changes from comments from different members, plus 
> questions.  If you have any more changes proposal or general comments 
> let us know :
> 
> *Project structure :*
> OpenPBX.org has run for over a year with a really free structure, 
> everyone contributed what they wish and it really work well so far.  But 
> since our first release will occur soon, it will help bring alot of new  
> developers in our rank, and some of them are not as experience as other 
> and that might cause problem with the current structure.

I agree on this.
We should start structuring a bit in the hope that new developers will 
jump onboard.
And we have to
1) give responsability to some persons for some part of te code
2) make sure that those people do what they has taken care off in a 
reasonable amount of time.

> Also we will have to become more structure and give responsibility to 
> different aspect of the development's and releases.  Of course we need 
> to be understanding about the different avability from certain person, 
> and not to make management time higher than the development's time.  

The time a person spend on the project cannot be fixed.
If someone takes the decision to write something, he should also give a 
deadline for the work.
We cannot impose no one to work on the code, of course, but we must be 
sure that the people who have offered their avalaibility do that.

> There were also talk to create an foundation for the project, it 
> something we should be really thinking about the pro and cons of doing 
> it. If someone has experience running or participating into one, it 
> would be great if you can share your experience with us.

I agree, because it will be a must when the number of people involved grows.
I have not much experience about this so i cannot really be propositive.

> *Project Name conflict :*
> There has been alot of offline discussion about  changing the name of 
> the project after our first releases.  Even if I have got us a trademark 
> registry for US and Canada  to secure openpbx.org, it seem some members 
> believe the name enter in conflict with another project and is affecting 
> our project future.  I personally do not care about the name itself (... 
> but I still like it).  I care more about us as a group and together 
> working to get an really great Open Source PBX platform.  So public 
> discussion about changing the name is open now, there has been no named 
> really proposed so far.  *Be careful* not to propose any name publicly 
> since some people with bad intention might try lock it out from us..

I agree about the name change.
The only opinion i have against it is that we should focus on the 
release first, and then on the name change.
IMHO we could change name even before a release.
That would imply, of course, the rewrite of most (if not all) of the 
docs and is not a small work. So we could also postpone the release and 
work on the name change.

At the moment i think there are not enough resources to  do both things 
at the same time. Unless, of course, someone has more resources to give.

> If we after these public discussion find that we have to find a new name 
> for our project, we can make a team  that will work on it, and at that 
> point create a private official channel for everyone to propose their 
> suggestions to that team.

ok

> *SubVersion proposal*
> 
>     * Remove all  unsecure svn commit access to opbx subversion.
>     * All commit access account require a SVN+SSH account setup and/or
>       setup an https:// svn setup ( I think svn+ssh is more secure) ?
>     * An active member (or more) will be voted to be given access to
>       manage the svn accounts creation and modifications.
>     * Upgrade the subversion system to 1.4 to allow mirroring.

as i said, everything suites me well.


> Now with a new structure, different person will be in charge of 
> different aspect of the project.  But in the mean time if you are unsure 
> where to send your problems with the project let me know.  If you are 
> interesting in taking the lead on different aspect of the project  
> (svn,trac,web,doc,release,moderator....) reply to this thread and 
> explain what is your views and goals.

i can do many things, some better than others...
So as soon as we have a list of people who can contribute, we could 
share the tasks accorting to their knowledge.


It's funny that those people i have heard complaining have not replied 
yet. This is the right moment to talk and propose.
Without public discussion we cannot grow.


Max



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