I don't know where this came from, but Open != Democracy. Open means people who don't like something are free to do as WE did with Asterisk, which of course means that Asterisk was Open source too... that was definitely not a democracy. When you're up for trademark infringement make sure you let them know you took a vote and it was voted to keep the name, I'm sure they'll understand.
Seriously, this chain is degrading... the name has to change. If the main programmers and those who organized the project want to let people vote on what name to use... then great, if not.... great. I just want it to end up with a decent name.... IMO the most important part is that it's easy to say and remember. I think both Aperio and CallWeaver fit those categories. I apologize if this comes across as a flame/troll... I just want this thread to go away, but that needed to be said. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ming-Wei Shih Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:49 AM To: OpenPBX.org Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [Openpbx-dev] Name Changes... bkml wrote: > On Feb 24, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Ming-Wei Shih wrote: > > >>> Do you mean to suggest you can just ignore the law because of an >>> online poll? I presume that would be rather naive. >>> >>> >> Since when is this breaking the law outside those countries? >> Openpbx is >> legal to use in a lot more countries than illegal countries. >> > > The only countries where the name is safe to use are the US and Canada. > And the only country that this maybe "not safe" is .au > > >> Democracy is about to respect the opinion >> of the majority and not about the individuals. >> > > Democracy is first and foremost about the principle that nobody is > above the law, that no majority can impose lawlessness upon any > minority. > > Hehe, laws are made by men, you have such a weird way of trying to turn everything to the way you wanted. Democracy comes from Greek, people rule. Respect the majority, and the majority makes the law. Don't get me wrong, I am all for a name change, I would like a name that is safe to use everywhere, but we just need to stay open on every aspect of this project, something that you seem not agree on because you start making irresponsible comments and accusing suggestion/insinuations when an open question is asked. >> And please don't PUT words if my mouth, did I suggested anything? I >> merely said that the "yes" voters should be more convincing. >> > > Perhaps you should read more carefully. I suggested it would be > rather naive to assume that an online poll has any weight when it > comes to legal matters. > Maybe you should stop putting words in other's mouth and stop being so pushy. And please learn how to snip a email, you have cut off the paragraph where you put words in my mouth and insinuated that I suggested something, this is really unacceptable. If you tell me to read more carefully why do you delete this specific paragraph? You left out this, quote: " Do you mean to suggest you can just ignore the law because of an online poll? I presume that would be rather naive. " One good advise from me Ben, don't play with people's mind, don't try to manipulate the crowd. And as I said last time, if you don't want this to be an open process, please go troll else where. xming _______________________________________________ Openpbx-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openpbx.org/mailman/listinfo/openpbx-dev _______________________________________________ Openpbx-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openpbx.org/mailman/listinfo/openpbx-dev
