If the choice is between CallWeaver and Aperio, I choose CallWeaver.  It 
abbreviates to "CW" or "cw.o" or even "[w" to make a nice comparison to 
"*" abbreviation.

Mike

Sam Bingner wrote:
> I don't know where this came from, but Open != Democracy.  Open means people
> who don't like something are free to do as WE did with Asterisk, which of
> course means that Asterisk was Open source too...  that was definitely not a
> democracy.  When you're up for trademark infringement make sure you let them
> know you took a vote and it was voted to keep the name, I'm sure they'll
> understand.
> 
> Seriously, this chain is degrading... the name has to change.  If the main
> programmers and those who organized the project want to let people vote on
> what name to use... then great, if not.... great.  I just want it to end up
> with a decent name.... IMO the most important part is that it's easy to say
> and remember.   I think both Aperio and CallWeaver fit those categories.
> 
> I apologize if this comes across as a flame/troll... I just want this thread
> to go away, but that needed to be said.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ming-Wei Shih
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:49 AM
> To: OpenPBX.org Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Openpbx-dev] Name Changes...
> 
> bkml wrote:
>> On Feb 24, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Ming-Wei Shih wrote:
>>
>>   
>>>> Do you mean to suggest you can just ignore the law because of an
>>>> online poll? I presume that would be rather naive.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> Since when is this breaking the law outside those countries?  
>>> Openpbx is
>>> legal to use in a lot more countries than illegal countries.
>>>     
>> The only countries where the name is safe to use are the US and Canada.
>>   
> And the only country that this maybe "not safe" is .au
>>   
>>> Democracy is about to respect the opinion
>>> of  the majority and not about the individuals.
>>>     
>> Democracy is first and foremost about the principle that nobody is  
>> above the law, that no majority can impose lawlessness upon any  
>> minority.
>>
>>   
> Hehe, laws are made by men, you have such a weird way of trying to turn 
> everything to
> the way you wanted.
> 
> Democracy comes from Greek, people rule. Respect the majority, and the 
> majority makes
> the law.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I am all for a name change, I would like a name that 
> is safe to use
> everywhere, but we just need to stay open on every aspect of this 
> project, something that you
> seem not agree on because you start making irresponsible comments and 
> accusing
> suggestion/insinuations when an open question is asked.
> 
>>> And please don't PUT words if my mouth, did I suggested anything? I
>>> merely said that the "yes" voters should be more convincing.
>>>     
>> Perhaps you should read more carefully. I suggested it would be  
>> rather naive to assume that an online poll has any weight when it  
>> comes to legal matters.
>>   
> 
> Maybe you should stop putting words in other's mouth and stop being so 
> pushy. And please
> learn how to snip a email, you have cut off the paragraph where you put 
> words in my mouth
> and insinuated that I suggested something, this is really unacceptable.
> 
> If you tell me to read more carefully why do you delete this specific 
> paragraph?
> 
> You left out this, quote: "
> Do you mean to suggest you can just ignore the law because of an
> online poll? I presume that would be rather naive.
> "
> 
> One good advise from me Ben, don't play with people's mind, don't try to 
> manipulate the
> crowd.
> 
> And as I said last time, if you don't want this to be an open process, 
> please go troll
> else where.
> 
> xming
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