Hi

I should have written that amfd acts on the admin op by sending a msg to a 
remote amfnd.

Gary

> On 21 Jun 2017, at 6:55 pm, A V Mahesh <mahesh.va...@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
>> On 6/21/2017 12:47 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
>> Hi Mahesh
>> 
>> The IMM objects and admin op are issued on the same node.
>> AMFD will ‘forward’ the admin op to AMFND on *another* node, where sometimes 
>> the object is not yet available.
> 
> This explains ,  their is a possibility AMFND on *another* node can initiated 
> admin op earlier than the IMM object sync
> why because AMF messages are having higher priority (MDS).
> 
> Can you please explore option of both object create & admin operation can 
> occur on same AMFND node ( not ‘forwarding’ )
> 
> -AVM
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Gary
>> 
>> On 21/6/17, 5:14 pm, "A V Mahesh" <mahesh.va...@oracle.com> wrote:
>> 
>>     Hi Pravee/Gary,
>>               On 6/21/2017 12:13 PM, praveen malviya wrote:
>>     > Hi Gary,
>>     >
>>     > Is there any ticket in IMM for any related issue?
>>     > Both creation of SU and admin operation on it will go through IMM only.
>>     > I do not know how IMM handles it and how IMM spec talks about it.
>>          [AVM] Even we have problem of newly created IMM object is taking 
>> some
>>     time to be available on other nodes
>>                  it will be a implementation problem and it is not related
>>     to IMM specification .
>>          > Does IMM spec allow admin operation on a entity for which all 
>> synced
>>     > IMMNDS (leaving non synced IMMNDS on the nodes joining the cluster)
>>     > are not updated?
>>          [AVM] Again, this is also not related to  IMM specification ,  if we
>>     resolve above this  issue will not rise .
>>          Gary, Is this issue you are facing in case where you are creating 
>> object
>>     on one node and   admin operation performed on different node ?
>>     or on same same node ?
>>          -AVM
>>          On 6/21/2017 12:30 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
>>     > Hi Praveen
>>     >
>>     >  From talking with Zoran/Hung, the IMM behaviour is expected and 
>> correct.
>>     > I’m not sure about the last question.
>>     >
>>     > As you know, in AMFND, the trigger to read from IMM is from an AMFD 
>> message.
>>     > The CCB could be committed on the node where active AMFD resides, so I 
>> guess the admin op would be accepted regardless of the answer to your 
>> question.
>>     >
>>     > Gary
>>     >
>>     > On 21/6/17, 4:43 pm, "praveen malviya" <praveen.malv...@oracle.com> 
>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >      Hi Gary,
>>     >
>>     >      Is there any ticket in IMM for any related issue?
>>     >      Both creation of SU and admin operation on it will go through IMM 
>> only.
>>     >      I do not know how IMM handles it and how IMM spec talks about it.
>>     >      Does IMM spec allow admin operation on a entity for which all 
>> synced
>>     >      IMMNDS (leaving non synced IMMNDS on the nodes joining the 
>> cluster) are
>>     >      not updated?
>>     >
>>     >      Thanks,
>>     >      Praveen
>>     >
>>     >      On 15-Jun-17 1:11 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
>>     >      > On a congested network, sometimes a newly created IMM object 
>> can take some
>>     >      > time to be available on other nodes.
>>     >      >
>>     >      > In our test, a new SU is created on SC-1 and unlocked. But 
>> sometimes
>>     >      > it fails on a remote node due to:
>>     >      >
>>     >      > 2017-05-19 13:55:19 SC-2 osafamfnd[258]: ER 
>> amf_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2 failed: 12
>>     >      >
>>     >      > To get around this, we will retry on SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST a few 
>> times.
>>     >      > ---
>>     >      >   src/amf/amfnd/util.cc | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>     >      >   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
>>     >      >
>>     >      > diff --git a/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc b/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
>>     >      > index ed0905ce2..bca642eac 100644
>>     >      > --- a/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
>>     >      > +++ b/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
>>     >      > @@ -38,6 +38,9 @@
>>     >      >   #include <unistd.h>
>>     >      >   #include "osaf/configmake.h"
>>     >      >   #include "amf/amfnd/avnd.h"
>>     >      > +#include "base/osaf_time.h"
>>     >      > +
>>     >      > +extern struct ImmutilWrapperProfile immutilWrapperProfile;
>>     >      >
>>     >      >   const char *presence_state[] = {
>>     >      >       "OUT_OF_RANGE",         "UNINSTANTIATED",     
>> "INSTANTIATING",
>>     >      > @@ -335,6 +338,18 @@ SaAisErrorT amf_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2(
>>     >      >                                                 scope, 
>> searchOptions, searchParam,
>>     >      >                                                 attributeNames, 
>> &searchHandle);
>>     >      >       }
>>     >      > +  } else if (rc == SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST) {
>>     >      > +    // it is possible for 'rootName' to be not yet available
>>     >      > +    // at the local immnd. Retry a few times to allow CCB to 
>> be propagated.
>>     >      > +    unsigned int nTries = 1;
>>     >      > +    while (rc == SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST &&
>>     >      > +      nTries < immutilWrapperProfile.nTries) {
>>     >      > +      osaf_nanosleep(&kHundredMilliseconds);
>>     >      > +      rc = immutil_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2(immHandle, 
>> rootName.c_str(),
>>     >      > +        scope, searchOptions, searchParam,
>>     >      > +        attributeNames, &searchHandle);
>>     >      > +      nTries++;
>>     >      > +    }
>>     >      >     }
>>     >      >     return rc;
>>     >      >   }
>>     >      >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > 
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