Hi Mahesh

“ Can you please explore option of both object create & admin operation 
    can occur on same AMFND node ( not ‘forwarding’ )”

While this is possible, the typical use case for us is users issue commands 
(manipulate IMM objects or admin ops) on an SC.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: A V Mahesh <mahesh.va...@oracle.com>
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Wednesday, 21 June 2017 at 6:55 pm
To: gary <gary....@dektech.com.au>, praveen malviya 
<praveen.malv...@oracle.com>, <hans.nordeb...@ericsson.com>, Nagendra Kumar 
<nagendr...@oracle.com>, minh chau <minh.c...@dektech.com.au>
Cc: <opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 1/1] amfnd: retry on ERR_NOT_EXIST [#2490]

    Hi Gary,
    
    On 6/21/2017 12:47 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    > Hi Mahesh
    >
    > The IMM objects and admin op are issued on the same node.
    > AMFD will ‘forward’ the admin op to AMFND on *another* node, where 
sometimes the object is not yet available.
    
    This explains ,  their is a possibility AMFND on *another* node can 
    initiated admin op earlier than the IMM object sync
    why because AMF messages are having higher priority (MDS).
    
    Can you please explore option of both object create & admin operation 
    can occur on same AMFND node ( not ‘forwarding’ )
    
    -AVM
    >
    > Thanks
    > Gary
    >
    > On 21/6/17, 5:14 pm, "A V Mahesh" <mahesh.va...@oracle.com> wrote:
    >
    >      Hi Pravee/Gary,
    >      
    >      
    >      On 6/21/2017 12:13 PM, praveen malviya wrote:
    >      > Hi Gary,
    >      >
    >      > Is there any ticket in IMM for any related issue?
    >      > Both creation of SU and admin operation on it will go through IMM 
only.
    >      > I do not know how IMM handles it and how IMM spec talks about it.
    >      
    >      [AVM] Even we have problem of newly created IMM object is taking some
    >      time to be available on other nodes
    >                   it will be a implementation problem and it is not 
related
    >      to IMM specification .
    >      
    >      > Does IMM spec allow admin operation on a entity for which all 
synced
    >      > IMMNDS (leaving non synced IMMNDS on the nodes joining the cluster)
    >      > are not updated?
    >      
    >      [AVM] Again, this is also not related to  IMM specification ,  if we
    >      resolve above this  issue will not rise .
    >      
    >      Gary, Is this issue you are facing in case where you are creating 
object
    >      on one node and   admin operation performed on different node ?
    >      or on same same node ?
    >      
    >      -AVM
    >      
    >      On 6/21/2017 12:30 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    >      > Hi Praveen
    >      >
    >      >  From talking with Zoran/Hung, the IMM behaviour is expected and 
correct.
    >      > I’m not sure about the last question.
    >      >
    >      > As you know, in AMFND, the trigger to read from IMM is from an 
AMFD message.
    >      > The CCB could be committed on the node where active AMFD resides, 
so I guess the admin op would be accepted regardless of the answer to your 
question.
    >      >
    >      > Gary
    >      >
    >      > On 21/6/17, 4:43 pm, "praveen malviya" 
<praveen.malv...@oracle.com> wrote:
    >      >
    >      >      Hi Gary,
    >      >
    >      >      Is there any ticket in IMM for any related issue?
    >      >      Both creation of SU and admin operation on it will go through 
IMM only.
    >      >      I do not know how IMM handles it and how IMM spec talks about 
it.
    >      >      Does IMM spec allow admin operation on a entity for which all 
synced
    >      >      IMMNDS (leaving non synced IMMNDS on the nodes joining the 
cluster) are
    >      >      not updated?
    >      >
    >      >      Thanks,
    >      >      Praveen
    >      >
    >      >      On 15-Jun-17 1:11 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    >      >      > On a congested network, sometimes a newly created IMM 
object can take some
    >      >      > time to be available on other nodes.
    >      >      >
    >      >      > In our test, a new SU is created on SC-1 and unlocked. But 
sometimes
    >      >      > it fails on a remote node due to:
    >      >      >
    >      >      > 2017-05-19 13:55:19 SC-2 osafamfnd[258]: ER 
amf_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2 failed: 12
    >      >      >
    >      >      > To get around this, we will retry on SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST a 
few times.
    >      >      > ---
    >      >      >   src/amf/amfnd/util.cc | 15 +++++++++++++++
    >      >      >   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
    >      >      >
    >      >      > diff --git a/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc b/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
    >      >      > index ed0905ce2..bca642eac 100644
    >      >      > --- a/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
    >      >      > +++ b/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
    >      >      > @@ -38,6 +38,9 @@
    >      >      >   #include <unistd.h>
    >      >      >   #include "osaf/configmake.h"
    >      >      >   #include "amf/amfnd/avnd.h"
    >      >      > +#include "base/osaf_time.h"
    >      >      > +
    >      >      > +extern struct ImmutilWrapperProfile immutilWrapperProfile;
    >      >      >
    >      >      >   const char *presence_state[] = {
    >      >      >       "OUT_OF_RANGE",         "UNINSTANTIATED",     
"INSTANTIATING",
    >      >      > @@ -335,6 +338,18 @@ SaAisErrorT 
amf_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2(
    >      >      >                                                 scope, 
searchOptions, searchParam,
    >      >      >                                                 
attributeNames, &searchHandle);
    >      >      >       }
    >      >      > +  } else if (rc == SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST) {
    >      >      > +    // it is possible for 'rootName' to be not yet 
available
    >      >      > +    // at the local immnd. Retry a few times to allow CCB 
to be propagated.
    >      >      > +    unsigned int nTries = 1;
    >      >      > +    while (rc == SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST &&
    >      >      > +      nTries < immutilWrapperProfile.nTries) {
    >      >      > +      osaf_nanosleep(&kHundredMilliseconds);
    >      >      > +      rc = immutil_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2(immHandle, 
rootName.c_str(),
    >      >      > +        scope, searchOptions, searchParam,
    >      >      > +        attributeNames, &searchHandle);
    >      >      > +      nTries++;
    >      >      > +    }
    >      >      >     }
    >      >      >     return rc;
    >      >      >   }
    >      >      >
    >      >
    >      >
    >      >
    >      >
    >      > 
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