Hi Mahesh

I don’t know of another way to fixing this issue other than what is already 
proposed in this ticket, unless IMM can guarantee that a commit has been 
applied to all nodes.

As discussed, the object create and admin op are done on the same node. But 
that may trigger a request to amfnd on another node, where that object may not 
yet exist.

Thanks
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: A V Mahesh <mahesh.va...@oracle.com>
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thursday, 22 June 2017 at 12:32 pm
To: gary <gary....@dektech.com.au>
Cc: praveen malviya <praveen.malv...@oracle.com>, 
<hans.nordeb...@ericsson.com>, Nagendra Kumar <nagendr...@oracle.com>, minh 
chau <minh.c...@dektech.com.au>, <opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 1/1] amfnd: retry on ERR_NOT_EXIST [#2490]

    Hi Gary,
    
    
    On 6/21/2017 2:32 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > I should have written that amfd acts on the admin op by sending a msg to 
a remote amfnd.
    Sorry ,I didn't get that  either you asked me question or  you informed  
    me alternatively how you are planning to fix,
    if you asked me a question  can you please elaborate.
    
    -AVM
    
    >
    > Gary
    >
    >> On 21 Jun 2017, at 6:55 pm, A V Mahesh <mahesh.va...@oracle.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> Hi Gary,
    >>
    >>> On 6/21/2017 12:47 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    >>> Hi Mahesh
    >>>
    >>> The IMM objects and admin op are issued on the same node.
    >>> AMFD will ‘forward’ the admin op to AMFND on *another* node, where 
sometimes the object is not yet available.
    >> This explains ,  their is a possibility AMFND on *another* node can 
initiated admin op earlier than the IMM object sync
    >> why because AMF messages are having higher priority (MDS).
    >>
    >> Can you please explore option of both object create & admin operation 
can occur on same AMFND node ( not ‘forwarding’ )
    >>
    >> -AVM
    >>> Thanks
    >>> Gary
    >>>
    >>> On 21/6/17, 5:14 pm, "A V Mahesh" <mahesh.va...@oracle.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>      Hi Pravee/Gary,
    >>>                On 6/21/2017 12:13 PM, praveen malviya wrote:
    >>>      > Hi Gary,
    >>>      >
    >>>      > Is there any ticket in IMM for any related issue?
    >>>      > Both creation of SU and admin operation on it will go through 
IMM only.
    >>>      > I do not know how IMM handles it and how IMM spec talks about it.
    >>>           [AVM] Even we have problem of newly created IMM object is 
taking some
    >>>      time to be available on other nodes
    >>>                   it will be a implementation problem and it is not 
related
    >>>      to IMM specification .
    >>>           > Does IMM spec allow admin operation on a entity for which 
all synced
    >>>      > IMMNDS (leaving non synced IMMNDS on the nodes joining the 
cluster)
    >>>      > are not updated?
    >>>           [AVM] Again, this is also not related to  IMM specification , 
 if we
    >>>      resolve above this  issue will not rise .
    >>>           Gary, Is this issue you are facing in case where you are 
creating object
    >>>      on one node and   admin operation performed on different node ?
    >>>      or on same same node ?
    >>>           -AVM
    >>>           On 6/21/2017 12:30 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    >>>      > Hi Praveen
    >>>      >
    >>>      >  From talking with Zoran/Hung, the IMM behaviour is expected and 
correct.
    >>>      > I’m not sure about the last question.
    >>>      >
    >>>      > As you know, in AMFND, the trigger to read from IMM is from an 
AMFD message.
    >>>      > The CCB could be committed on the node where active AMFD 
resides, so I guess the admin op would be accepted regardless of the answer to 
your question.
    >>>      >
    >>>      > Gary
    >>>      >
    >>>      > On 21/6/17, 4:43 pm, "praveen malviya" 
<praveen.malv...@oracle.com> wrote:
    >>>      >
    >>>      >      Hi Gary,
    >>>      >
    >>>      >      Is there any ticket in IMM for any related issue?
    >>>      >      Both creation of SU and admin operation on it will go 
through IMM only.
    >>>      >      I do not know how IMM handles it and how IMM spec talks 
about it.
    >>>      >      Does IMM spec allow admin operation on a entity for which 
all synced
    >>>      >      IMMNDS (leaving non synced IMMNDS on the nodes joining the 
cluster) are
    >>>      >      not updated?
    >>>      >
    >>>      >      Thanks,
    >>>      >      Praveen
    >>>      >
    >>>      >      On 15-Jun-17 1:11 PM, Gary Lee wrote:
    >>>      >      > On a congested network, sometimes a newly created IMM 
object can take some
    >>>      >      > time to be available on other nodes.
    >>>      >      >
    >>>      >      > In our test, a new SU is created on SC-1 and unlocked. 
But sometimes
    >>>      >      > it fails on a remote node due to:
    >>>      >      >
    >>>      >      > 2017-05-19 13:55:19 SC-2 osafamfnd[258]: ER 
amf_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2 failed: 12
    >>>      >      >
    >>>      >      > To get around this, we will retry on SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST 
a few times.
    >>>      >      > ---
    >>>      >      >   src/amf/amfnd/util.cc | 15 +++++++++++++++
    >>>      >      >   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
    >>>      >      >
    >>>      >      > diff --git a/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc b/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
    >>>      >      > index ed0905ce2..bca642eac 100644
    >>>      >      > --- a/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
    >>>      >      > +++ b/src/amf/amfnd/util.cc
    >>>      >      > @@ -38,6 +38,9 @@
    >>>      >      >   #include <unistd.h>
    >>>      >      >   #include "osaf/configmake.h"
    >>>      >      >   #include "amf/amfnd/avnd.h"
    >>>      >      > +#include "base/osaf_time.h"
    >>>      >      > +
    >>>      >      > +extern struct ImmutilWrapperProfile 
immutilWrapperProfile;
    >>>      >      >
    >>>      >      >   const char *presence_state[] = {
    >>>      >      >       "OUT_OF_RANGE",         "UNINSTANTIATED",     
"INSTANTIATING",
    >>>      >      > @@ -335,6 +338,18 @@ SaAisErrorT 
amf_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2(
    >>>      >      >                                                 scope, 
searchOptions, searchParam,
    >>>      >      >                                                 
attributeNames, &searchHandle);
    >>>      >      >       }
    >>>      >      > +  } else if (rc == SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST) {
    >>>      >      > +    // it is possible for 'rootName' to be not yet 
available
    >>>      >      > +    // at the local immnd. Retry a few times to allow 
CCB to be propagated.
    >>>      >      > +    unsigned int nTries = 1;
    >>>      >      > +    while (rc == SA_AIS_ERR_NOT_EXIST &&
    >>>      >      > +      nTries < immutilWrapperProfile.nTries) {
    >>>      >      > +      osaf_nanosleep(&kHundredMilliseconds);
    >>>      >      > +      rc = immutil_saImmOmSearchInitialize_o2(immHandle, 
rootName.c_str(),
    >>>      >      > +        scope, searchOptions, searchParam,
    >>>      >      > +        attributeNames, &searchHandle);
    >>>      >      > +      nTries++;
    >>>      >      > +    }
    >>>      >      >     }
    >>>      >      >     return rc;
    >>>      >      >   }
    >>>      >      >
    >>>      >
    >>>      >
    >>>      >
    >>>      >
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