Update: apparently we're already running it - at least for Inventory. Adam
> -----Original Message----- > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Frisby, Adam > Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 8:06 PM > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core > > If OSGrid isn't already, we may begin doing testing on ROBUST. We have > pretty decent stats on things such as memory leaks over time, so we can > observe how it performs in a high usage environment. > > Adam > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Melanie > > Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 12:43 PM > > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core > > > > Thing is, that would make the new "old" servers actually be ROBUST. > > The concern that has been voiced is that ROBUST needs more testing > > and not all grids are willing to switch yet. > > What you propose would force them to switch, through the back door. > > While I'm all for that, it would achieve the same thing as simply > > removing A and I, namely, make people use ROBUST. Some don't want > > that yet. > > > > Melanie > > > > Fly Man wrote: > > > Why wait until September when the solution is already on the Wiki: > > > > > > 1) Delete the old Grid.Asset and Grid.Inventory servers > > > > > > 2) Copy the new OpenSim.Server.exe to OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer.exe > > and > > > OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer.exe > > > > > > 3) Copy the .config files: OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer.exe.config and > > > OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer.exe.config and edit them so they'll > use > > > the same log file like they did before > > > > > > 4) Create the new OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer.ini and > > > OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer.ini like mentioned on the Wiki > > > > > > 5) Edit those like mentioned and run them > > > > > > I think the solution to this "problem" is easily fixed by doing > this > > > and commiting the whole bunch again then waiting until September > > > > > > 2009/8/13 <d...@metaverseink.com>: > > >> I'm fine with waiting until September before pruning reference > > >> implementations down to one of each. But someone needs to give > love > > to > > >> Grid.Inventory, because I don't have time for loving so many > servers > > :-) > > >> > > >> The current improvement I'm doing right now (eliminating the need > to > > >> pass the entire inventory around) only works for the new-style > > inventory > > >> service. It can easily be made to work for the old one. Whoever > > wants > > >> Grid.Inventory to support the simulators' [much more reasonable] > > needs > > >> should make the necessary improvements to it. I'll be happy to > > explain > > >> what the server needs to do -- 2 additional service handlers. I > > still > > >> haven't pushed my local commits, and I can wait a little bit for a > > >> Grid.InventoryServer lover to step up and volunteer. But I don't > > think > > >> it's reasonable to hold this improvement until September; I > already > > have > > >> it, and it's almost ready to be pushed out to grids out there. > > Passing > > >> thousands of inventory items upon region crossings and TPs is > > probably > > >> one of the worst things in OpenSim right now, and needs fixing. > > >> > > >> > > >> MW wrote: > > >>> I'm fine with the AssetInventoryServer being removed as soon as > > possible > > >>> because I don't think anyone uses it. > > >>> > > >>> But believe we should at least wait a couple of more weeks before > > the > > >>> Grid.InventoryServer > > >>> and Grid.AssetServer are removed, so that everyone gets a chance > to > > have > > >>> their say/vote. As a number of people are on vacation around this > > time. > > >>> > > >>> Personally as long as the ROBUST servers are fully tested on > > multiple > > >>> grids that have a quite heavy load/userbase, then I'm okay with > > removing > > >>> the old servers, as long as there is total agreement; I know a > few > > >>> people have said they don't want to swap to ROBUST. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- On *Tue, 11/8/09, Frisby, Adam /<a...@deepthink.com.au>/* > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> From: Frisby, Adam <a...@deepthink.com.au> > > >>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core > > >>> To: "opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" <opensim- > > d...@lists.berlios.de> > > >>> Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 10:09 PM > > >>> > > >>> Please do. I'd like a 0.6.X release shortly after every > > >>> networkinterface version change if possible - since it makes > > compat > > >>> with the latest stable release always a headache. > > >>> > > >>> Adam > > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de > > >>> </mc/compose?to=opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de> > > >>> [mailto:opensim-dev- > > >>> > boun...@lists.berlios.de > > >>> </mc/compose?to=boun...@lists.berlios.de>] On Behalf Of > Justin > > >>> Clark-Casey > > >>> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:04 PM > > >>> > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > >>> </mc/compose?to=opensim-...@lists.berlios.de> > > >>> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in > core > > >>> > > > >>> > d...@metaverseink.com > </mc/compose?to=d...@metaverseink.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > Dear devs, > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I'm finally changing the way the simulator caches > > inventory. > > >>> This is > > >>> > all > > >>> > > good, and it's the beginning of the much awaited user > > services > > >>> > > refactoring. This requires a few small changes in the > > inventory > > >>> > services > > >>> > > interface, as well as additions to the > implementation(s). > > So... > > >>> > > > > >>> > > We now have 3 -- yes 3! -- different inventory servers > in > > core. > > >>> (and > > >>> > 3 > > >>> > > asset servers too). I think it's time to make a decision > > on what to > > >>> > keep > > >>> > > and what to drop, because evolving this ecosystem of > > >>> implementations > > >>> > in > > >>> > > core is unscalable. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > With this, I'm proposing that we drop the old > > Grid.InventoryServer, > > >>> > the > > >>> > > old Grid.AssetServer and the AssetInventoryServer (CB1). > > Some > > >>> people > > >>> > may > > >>> > > still be using the old servers, so it's time to switch > > everybody to > > >>> > > ROBUST. Asking in the IRC, it looks like no one is using > > >>> > > AssetInventoryServer. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Comments? Objections? > > >>> > > > >>> > Might be an idea to knock out a 0.6.7 first before making > > that > > >>> switch. > > >>> > > > >>> > -- > > >>> > justincc > > >>> > Justin Clark-Casey > > >>> > http://justincc.wordpress.com > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > Opensim-dev mailing list > > >>> > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > >>> </mc/compose?to=opensim-...@lists.berlios.de> > > >>> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Opensim-dev mailing list > > >>> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > >>> </mc/compose?to=opensim-...@lists.berlios.de> > > >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ----- > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Opensim-dev mailing list > > >>> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Opensim-dev mailing list > > >> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev _______________________________________________ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
