Well, I started to wonder if this is a concern to me because I used to have 
Greenlife Viewer/Emerald Viewer until I had to uninstall it and go with 
Emergence Viewer instead. I have tried Phoenix Viewer when it was out, but it 
was really laggy for me on SL even in sandboxes, and it seemd worser when 
trying Firestorm Viewer. The only other viable viewer for me to use on SL that 
I have found is Singularity Viewer. So right now, the only viewers I have on 
this system is an old v1 SL Viewer, Emergence Viewer, Singularity Viewer, 
InWorldz Viewer (that I use when connecting to InWorldz as I'm also on there), 
and Meerkat Viewer (which I used a few times on OpenSims I have connect to 
OSGrid). The only two viewers I basically use when connecting to SL are 
Emergence and Singularity.

--
Erik McDarby

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mircea Kitsune 
  To: opensim-dev mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim's direction after Linden cutting support, 
and the possibility of an official OpenSim viewer


  I noticed most users prefer Firestorm and it's considered the best 
third-party viewer at this day. Although it's a thing of personal preference, I 
am a bit worried that Firestorm gets all the attention, since I'm not seeing 
any of the other viewers getting mentioned much since Firestorm is there. Like 
I said I don't like it because it's very bloated and slow... the ideal viewer 
for me is one just like the official SL client but with a grid manager, build / 
upload limits removed, and new features added.

  As far as I know the Second Life viewer is GPL licensed, so distributing it 
should be possible like any other GPL software. Excluding the Havoc library 
which supposedly caused OpenSim support to go away. Changes unrelated to the 
Havoc lib should always be GPL too, so if LL adds something that OpenSim viewer 
can integrate it should be ok. OpenSim is MIT licensed if I remember right, but 
there's nothing wrong with distributing a MIT code and a GPL one under the same 
name and website.

  Building a viewer from scratch is something I don't believe will happen or 
needs to happen. It would be an enormous amount of work, only to achieve 
something very similar to what's already there. The SL viewer just needs work 
in places where Linden didn't give it much attention, but is well optimized in 
many areas.



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  Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:55:28 +0100
  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim's direction after Linden cutting support, 
and the possibility of an official OpenSim viewer


  I much prefer using Firestorm for OpenSim since developers have clearly 
separated Opensim version from the SL one. Firestorm 431 31155 version is very 
powerful and there are of course some lacks.
  But Firestorm developers are very responsive and they opened a section 
OpenSim in their Jira (successfully tested).


  On the other hand, we can always think that people who have made a server 
would be best placed to make a viewer. Except that this would lead to a 
paradoxical situation where OpenSim developers ask Linden Lab permission to use 
sources V2/3/4, keeping in mind that the issue of licenses would remain the 
same that with the SL viewer and the viewer FireStorm.

  As for building a viewer from scratch, as did our realXtend friends .... it's 
difficult to gather enough people and get results in a significant delay.

  GCI



     

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