> My concern is that things are not moving at a good enough pace, they are > not going in the right direction and the slow pace is due to Sun's highly > bureaucratic governance. Secondly the process isn't open and inviting > enough - The complete Solaris development has to be opened up - Sun > Engineers need to develop and discuss in the open - otherwise how will > aspiring folks get to know the technology and understand the development > model?
We _are_ in the process of opening up our development model, but as others have (repeatedly) tried to tell you, these things take time. Instead of just complaining about the "slow pace" and the "bureaucratic governance", I recommend you look at the degree that various projects _have_ opened up their development. For example, on the DTrace project we've led the charge by taking our internal DTrace interest list -- a list which had over 400 opt-in Sun engineers on it -- and throwing it onto opensolaris.org: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=1070&tstart=60 Whenever we on the DTrace team are asked a DTrace question in private, we ask the questioner to re-ask it on the public discussion list -- making this _public_ forum the single source for DTrace information and collaboration. Further, we have taken pains to explicitly outline ideas for contribution to DTrace: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/bmc/dtrace_oscon.pdf And we have engaged with developers working on DTrace for PHP: http://netevil.org/node.php?uuid=42f82a8b-09b7-5013-1667-2f82a8b24ead DTrace for FreeBSD: http://www.sitetronics.com/wordpress/?p=19#comments And DTrace for Ruby: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc?entry=dtrace_and_ruby Is this a representative sample of all projects in Solaris? No, it's not -- but it's an indication of where we're going, and how serious we are about getting there. Finally, in terms of "aspiring folks get[ting] to know the technology", you should read the Opening Day blog entries: http://opensolaris.org/os/blogs/?startDate=2005-06-14 You'll find _in depth_ content from the engineers themselves. In fact, you'll find that our problem is not too little content, but rather far (far!) too much. To help you navigate these entries, you'll want to consult the digests that a few of us put together: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc?entry=sifting_through_the_blogs http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/lianep?entry=opensolaris_blogs_networking_drivers_security http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/cmh?entry=sifting_opensolaris_blogs_from_tokyo http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc?entry=more_blog_sifting http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc?entry=yet_more_blog_sifting http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc?entry=still_more_blog_sifting I think you would be hard-pressed to browse the above and _not_ conclude that there is an enormous, grass-roots effort within Solaris to open our development model. We _will_ get there -- and probably faster than you realize... - Bryan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Cantrill, Solaris Kernel Development. http://blogs.sun.com/bmc _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
