>   "exlusivity" ?
>
>   I give up.  I really do.
>
>   Once upon a time I thought it would be a really great idea to build
>   a project that allows people to login and play.  To build software
>   and "do things".
>
>   Like create open source software in an open way, for free, and get
>   involved.  Doors were always open.  Sun had no such thing at the
>   time and people seemed to want something like that.
>
>   Here I am in 2006 with people upset and outright angry with me.
>   I have a guy sending me an email that tells me to issue an apology
>   to Kieth and Steve C.  I see another guy wants to run around to
>   all his clients and tell them to avoid blastwave.
>
>   Well done, build a bridge and then watch people complain as they
>   drive over it.  At least I have a few people that tell me that its
>   great that they can get all this software so easily.  I can live
>   with that I guess.
>
>   Now then .. is someone actually creating a new maillist ?
>

You're rather crossing the line now. I said I was going to drop this
topic, but this is going a bit too far.

People aren't upset/angry/etc with you because you started/created this
project. I *was* happy you did. I'm sure tons of people are very
appreciative, and happy you did. My problem is your absolute unwillingness
to let people do their own thing. You've repeatedly said (in so many
words) it's Blastwave for you, or it's nothing. This whole discussion
started out of a request for a place to discuss these issues. At first you
were almost attacking it, then you started telling people to use your
discussion forums, and even more recently you said go ahead and create a
discussion area here.

>   Well done, build a bridge and then watch people complain as they
>   drive over it.

Look buddy, I'm not driving over your bridge. I have no intention of ever
driving over your bridge. I'm also not putting dynamite under it. The way
you've treated people on this list, the way you've been attempting to push
and shove your way around - never forgetting to include a nice "i did all
this work for my vision" statement, and your inability to allow other
people to do what they would like to do because you don't agree - REALLY
bothers me. Quite obviously it's bothered other people too.

Just two days ago, I considered blastwave a wonderful project, and I had a
lot of respect for your work on it (as well as the community involved.)
While it didn't work for my needs in most cases, that didn't make me
belittle it, nor your efforts.

My issue isn't with Blastwave, or your work on the project, nor anybodies.
I am not out to *harm* you in some way. My issue is entirely related to
your words here. You cannot tell people "you can't do that because I've
done something like it and my way is the only way to do such a thing!" You
cannot play the guilt game and talk about how much effort you've put into
your project and how X or Y company is trying to take away from it.

I hope when you decided to offer a free service, you understood like most
things in life - everything is temporary. If you make a free/open source
product/service/whatever, and later down the road somebody else
re-implements it in a different way than yours, and that way becomes
*accepted* by X Y or Z company... that's life.

The issue at hand isn't even the above mentioned case! Nobody has said
such a thing will occur! We (me, other *non-sun* folk, and sun folk) have
all expressed interest in a place to discuss this software. Nowhere had
anybody said Blastwave is not a possible solution. Until now, and you
brought that onto yourself/your project.

This is a very common complex with people who lead OSS/free projects, I've
watched it destroy *many* more projects than I care to name. Your way
isn't the only way, accept it now and work with other people instead of
trying to force them to see things through your eyes. If we want a
community to discuss things in OSOL, just let it pass if you don't agree,
+1 if you do. By all means participate in the discussion. Do *not* tell me
what I can/can't do, and that I am right/wrong simply based on the fact
you run an OSS/free project related to what I want. Back it up with some
technical reasoning, logic, whatever - that's fine. That's what discussion
is about, and that's why we need the community.

David

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