Hi Jim, having just spent some time on the Power.org BoD and being involved in this effort over the same period of time (in both cases since Dec 2004), we would say you, Sun and the Community have done an exceptional job by any measure. Ice cream for everyone! :-) Is there a Solaris flavor yet?! BTW, we would like to be able to serve this at a future Austin OpenSolaris User Group meeting - that would be the meeting where we feature the Solaris for PowerPC Community. :)

Turning this into more will still take time, but not too much. Just read this: In his studio apartment in a residence hall for graduate students, he showed one of them, which he said was filmed in April 2005. In it, Mr. Chen talked about “getting pretty depressed” because there were only 50 or 60 videos on the YouTube site. Also, he said, “there’s not that many videos I’d want to watch.” The camera then turns to Mr. Hurley, who grins and says “Videos like these,” referring to the one Mr. Karim is filming. (NYTimes)

The road to success is paved with continuity and a process of innovation. We recommend the following:

1. Host an event - look at the mailing lists over the last two years, see who is participating, get everyone in a room. "Being there" is actually an important ingredient in successfully commingling ideas, processing them and actualizing them into practical results. The theme is _Next_ and Sun as the champion of collaborative innovation is bringing the following to be involved...

2. The practical steps that should come next should be driven by target markets and products, i.e. something tangible beyond the code. Code is not the end in itself. It is time to make the community more relevant to more people because we want the community to grow. But, before that, the framework has to be in place. There needs to be a collaborative online structure that leads to a process that produces results... How to say that in another way? A USAID representative who might be driving microenterprise development (a great new market) has not a clue what Mercurial is. We need a repository and _process_ for "dummies" and not just software engineers. It is time to take Solaris to "real" application if you want to engage a bigger community.

We appreciate the opportunity to be and to have been involved. Thanks for the great work.

Sincerely,
R&B


On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Jim Grisanzio wrote:

Hi, guys.

Occasionally, we have conversations about how we are doing as a community. These conversations take place on these forums, at conferences and user groups around the world, and also inside Sun. I'd like to get a conversation going about where we all think we are right now as a community and where we'd like to go.

At this point, we have an enormous amount of code out there, many projects and communities, a few ports and distributions, code integrations, a variety of contributions, an SCM infrastructure coming, and a draft governance model close to done. We also have about 150 mail lists with thousands of developers generating a stunning amount of conversation, and we have about 16K or so people registered on the site.

So ... where do we go from here?

Year one was clearly about getting out there, releasing lots of code, and building infrastructure. What's next? To me, community growth -- in size and diversity -- makes a lot of sense to be discussing, but I'm happy to shut up and sit down if people think this is not a valid area of focus. Keep in mind, when I say "community growth" what I mean very simply is people. I'm still amazed -- and inspired -- by the fact that a large number of people out there don't we're open. I've always viewed this as an opportunity for growth, though, not as a problem. But are we engaging them properly?

Some questions for consideration:

* Are we happy with the current size and growth rate of the community?
* Are we measuring this growth accurately?
* How much could we potentially grow? And in what areas?
* If we wanted to grow in size significantly, how would we do it?
* Now that the community is more diversified, how do we view Sun's role? * What are we not doing as a community that we could or should be doing? * What should Sun do to help grow the community, and what should we as a
  community do for ourselves?
* What's possible?
* What am I missing ...

Any thoughts would be appreciated -- partly because I'm very much invested in seeing this project grow, partly because I like talking about the community to new people, and partly because I'm pretty bullish about our potential. And also, there are always new people joining the OpenSolaris community, and I'd love to get their opinions on this issue as well.

Best,

Jim
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