On Friday 13 October 2006 12:03 am, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> I'll have to check 'em out. I've been talking a lot with the NSUG lately
> -- they are Solaris, Java, SPARC, everything.

The TPCUG is the oldest user group in Japan, but not sure how active it is 
these days. It is still going.

> I agree. But what else could we do that doesn't necessarily involve
> presentations?

teleconferencing?

> Yes, you are very much at ground zero there, my friend. :)

Not my fault. I came here on purpose.;-)

> But things
> will diversify over time. The user groups are growing pretty well now.
> The Czech group has met a great deal this year, and they are having
> their second all day event. And in China, the Shanghai group, which is
> new, had a good turnout for their first meeting. We're up to 40 user
> groups now, but I'm not sure how many are active on a consistent basis.
>   The came names keep cropping up on ug-discuss. However, at least the
> seeds are there, and several groups are very active.

Sure, but what you will find is that it is difficult for the seeds to continue 
to grow. I'm not trying to be a pessimist, just offering your my thoughts 
after running many user groups over the years, with Heathkit, IBM, now Sun, 
and even <gasp> microsoft. It's usually not too hard to get the ball rolling, 
it's hard to keep it rolling.

> What would it take to do this? I assume we'd need a little cash, right?
>   I like the idea, though.

I'm not sure it would take as much cash as cooperation from various 
departments within Sun. So, yes it might take cash only because the 
departments are not willing to help us out, but if you could get folks to 
help you I don't think it would take that much cash/budget.

It would require some type of multiplexing streaming server, such as the Real 
Server or similar. Sun has done live conference broadcasts, Java One keynote 
as a case in point. I don't know what is involved or how much budget they 
require, but you would need to check into that.

> Oh, question: you are still doing phone access to your meetings, right?

Yes, and my manager takes quite a hit each month for me to do that. I think it 
costs about $200/mo aprox. and that is only for the use at this time.

> hey, you are welcome to come, man! The guys here are doing an install
> fest next month, and I'm going to go to that. I'll send back some pics.
> But maybe in the spring? I hear it's nice here in the spring time. :)
> Maybe you can do an Alan tour: Japan, Korea, and China. An Asian install
> fest. No, seriously, we need help in getting an Korean group started.
> I'll be there for the OpenSolaris Day at Tech Days next month, so I hope
> to find some people who are interested.

Spring is good for me. Most all the tech days look pretty filled, and the ones 
I've submitted for all have multiple folks. I looked at Malaysia, pretty full 
also and the only thing in Asia this year. Not that interested in going to 
Korea, been there done that too many times. Definitely don't want to go to 
Korea in the winter, was in a blizzard once there and it was the coldest 
weather I'm been in for my life, even skiing as a kid. 

Spring sounds good. Ping when the cherry blossoms start to bloom around March! 
That is about the only couple weeks of good weather over there...hehehe

Everyone would like to get me over to talk to people but it's the same 'ol 
story..."see if your manager can fund it". I put in for 2 international trips 
this year, but not sure if I'll even get one. I have heard that people close 
to the Tech Days will have priority.

-- 

Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems
Solaris x86 Engineering - IHV/OEM Group


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