John Plocher writes:
> Martin Bochnig wrote:
> > If you want to be FullyOpen, then you may have to accept this.
> 
> Being a FullyOpen community member, I accept that others in the
> FullyOpen community may do things to which I disagree. FullyOpen
> does not mean "everyone has a veto".  It also does not mean "every
> decision is made by consensus".  Sometimes people see a need, and
> go on and fill it, whether or not others agree with them...

I completely agree with that.  Not every decision needs to be made by
consensus or by community-wide voting.

The distinction that I hear many drawing here is that the OpenSolaris
community itself naturally has an interest in the use of the term
"OpenSolaris."  Obviously, it doesn't (and technically can't) own the
trademark, and thus can't dictate its use, but the application of that
mark *does* affect all contributors.

For instance, one direct effect is that prior to Indiana, a project
was "in OpenSolaris" if it went through the established community
endorsement process, and no other change was needed.  Now that
"OpenSolaris" is a distribution, the Indiana project team gets to pick
and choose among other projects to be granted "OpenSolaris" inclusion,
and needn't take the work product of all of them -- or could even
modify ("hack") some as part of constructing the distribution.

Perhaps there's every intent to take the kitchen sink unmodified
... even though I strongly doubt that's technically possible when
there are conflicts (postfix or sendmail?).  However, it's well within
the distributor's prerogative to determine what's "in" and what's
"out."  And that's a significant change for the community.

Given that this issue affects all, that makes the issue special.  It's
rather different from (say) creating a new distribution with an
arbitrary name, or designing a new packaging system.

Avoiding the insistence that there is only one "real OpenSolaris
distribution" fixes those conflicts definitively, though I can see why
the Indiana proponents don't want that result.  As an alternative,
putting the issue to a community-wide vote would also decide the issue
(though perhaps result in more unwanted division).  Simply driving on
from the crash scene, though, sounds likely to produce trouble.

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