On Nov 1, 2007, at 14:38, James Carlson wrote:

> Simon Phipps writes:
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2007, at 14:18, James Carlson wrote:
>>
>>> That's a significant community-wide power.  It's a big change,  
>>> without
>>> regard to the trademark legal issues.
>>
>> Only if we sit around and leave it as-is. You're speaking as if all
>> decisions are made and final. That's not so. There's a stake in the
>> ground, for sure, but we all have shovels.
>
> Great!  Then you're a proponent of having this discussion

I am, yes, although I prefer to see positive proposals that build on  
where we are now. That doesn't include "fait accomplis I can do  
nothing" comments, nor does it include "barbarians have taken the  
town let's fall back to the castle" approaches which I classify as  
"stop-energy" and try (with limited success) to ignore :-)

S.

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