Simon Phipps writes:
> On Nov 1, 2007, at 13:35, James Carlson wrote:
>
> > For instance, one direct effect is that prior to Indiana, a project
> > was "in OpenSolaris" if it went through the established community
> > endorsement process, and no other change was needed. Now that
> > "OpenSolaris" is a distribution, the Indiana project team gets to pick
> > and choose among other projects to be granted "OpenSolaris" inclusion,
> > and needn't take the work product of all of them -- or could even
> > modify ("hack") some as part of constructing the distribution.
>
> I don't agree with that. Prior to the start of the current trademark
> discussions, there was only a fair-use right for /anything/ to
> associate itself with OpenSolaris. That right can't be taken away.
> It's up to us to work together to make the trademark guideline[1]
> what we want it to be (while making sure that the people with
> responsibility in law for the trademark are able to approve it).
I think you're missing the point I'm making. The Indiana project
functions as a WOS -- as a distributor. As such, it can make
inclusion decisions about other projects that others cannot make (or
even challenge), and its decisions affect what is included as the
"reference" for OpenSolaris.
That's a significant community-wide power. It's a big change, without
regard to the trademark legal issues.
> It's an opportunity to do a new thing collectively and I'm hoping all
> the stop-energy I've seen today will soon change into do-energy. We
> have the "running code" (in both the alpha release and the name),
> it's time to iterate.
Again, I think that's a misunderstanding. Nobody is emitting
"stop-energy" (whatever the heck that might be). Instead, they're
asking that the folks using the community-wide name actually get the
endorsement of the community that's affected by that usage -- that is,
all of OpenSolaris.
Alternatives include simply changing the name to "Sun's OpenSolaris"
or "Indiana" to make it clear that the wider community isn't intended
to be subject to this project team's decisions.
None of this says "stop," so I just don't agree with your assertions.
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